Non-Conference games 2019-2020 season

bbtds · August 28, 2019, 03:36:44 PM

Quote from: Pgmado on August 28, 2019, 11:57:47 AMNo.

Vander Washington?

George Bilt?

North Maryland?

South Virginia State?

EddieCabot · August 28, 2019, 03:48:12 PM

Quote from: Pgmado on August 28, 2019, 11:57:47 AM
Quote from: govalpogo on August 28, 2019, 10:28:01 AMA few days later, two of our beat reporters started following Arkansas hoops on twitter. Coincidence?

No.

Not a coincidence = game with Arkansas. The Razorbacks travel to IU on December 29, but I assume the Valpo game will be at Arkansas.

VUBBFan · August 28, 2019, 03:52:24 PM

A good quality away game. Now we need some good home games

VUBBFan · August 28, 2019, 05:05:57 PM

Alright here is the schedule for VU

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1166832139297599488
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/1166831142617669633

NativeCheesehead · August 28, 2019, 05:07:44 PM

Three non con D1 home games. Unbelievable.

VUBBFan · August 28, 2019, 05:20:32 PM

Quote from: NativeCheesehead on August 28, 2019, 05:07:44 PMThree non con D1 home games. Unbelievable.

That's what happens when two Quality name D I schools pull out at the last minute and there are no Quality D I school willing or able to replace them. Otherwise it would have been a fairly good home stand. Unfortunately we had to settle for less for the replacements. I don't fault our athletic department,
they seemed to have had a good home schedule in place before GW & Vandy bailed.

vufan75 · August 28, 2019, 06:22:10 PM

Season ticket prices should be cheaper this year. 3 non-con D1 home games + 9 MVC home games. Plus the non-D1. 12 total D1 home games. Would of been nice to get 1 non-con D1 Sat night game. Not possible I guess at last minute. Oh well. Best enjoy the 3 non-con D1's we got in Nov/Dec. [emoji17]

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VUBBFan · August 28, 2019, 06:36:57 PM

Looking it over a little more this is not a BAD Schedule. I'm disappointed in not having GW and Vandy at home but don't know what it would have been with them. Central Michigan seems like the direct replacement for GW since they take the date that they were slotted for. I was thinking that Trinity was replacing Vandy but that may not be the case. Would be interesting to know who replaced them and if it was a home or away game that was replaced.
At least we only play two non DI teams with one being an exhibition game which is pretty much given for DI schools to do to start out the year. So we're only picking up one non DI game that counts.
Altogether I'm ready and excited for the season to begin

govalpogo · August 28, 2019, 06:45:03 PM

First of all, swoosh on the Arkansas game prediction

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Seems to me that our schedulers listened to y'all complain about the multiple non D-1 games and opted to play more away games instead of loading up on Purdue NW and IU Kokomo, etc. I assume that Central Michigan and North Dakota are the teams Valpo is paying to host. There's enough history with Trinity that I wouldn't think they would need to be paid. Toledo has been on the books for awhile. Did a game with South Dakota State fall through as alluded to by SDSU's cryptic and phantom MVC opponent listed on Twitter?

The away games with EMU and SIUe are a little confusing to me. Did Valpo offer to pay them to come in, but saved their money in exchange for home and homes?

Overall, I don't really care about the home schedule as much as others, I live in New Jersey and really only get to see Valpo when they make the NIT final 4

. I see a schedule that's not too bad for a rebuilding team. A few challenges with a lot of winnable games to work out the kinks.

elephtheria47 · August 28, 2019, 06:51:13 PM

Part of the athletic department's job is to get me excited about the home games and get me to buy tickets/spend money. They have failed to do this. I'd be upset if I had season tickets.

Every year there are stories about mid majors getting bought out for a home game. There needs to be a contingency plan in case that happens. Hopefully the lessons learned this offseason helps prepare them for the future but yet another offseason the fanbase is left wanting more.

valpopal · August 28, 2019, 07:24:04 PM

Got to be honest: the non-con home schedule is pure crap. Only three D-1 team games, one is on a Sunday afternoon during NFL season, another is after classes end and the day before final exams. Another game is Thanksgiving eve when students are away. No Friday or Saturday games except the 5 p.m. exhibition against a D-2 team in October. If you wanted to assure apathy from the student body, this is the schedule you'd create.

wh · August 28, 2019, 08:00:51 PM

On a side note, Paradise (as in Paradise Jam) is not paradise today. Hurricane Dorian paid us a visit this afternoon. Fortunately, it was a Cat 1, but gusts reached 111 MPH with sustained winds of 88. Power out on the whole island, and curfew in place til 8a.

NativeCheesehead · August 28, 2019, 08:05:11 PM

The schedule overall is decent. Some chances for a few good wins. But I agree the home portion is garbage.

I'm still excited about this program going forward, but man, I just feel like we're in an environment of excuses.

Excuses of why the ARC is garbage. Excuses of why players transfer. Excuses of why we have zero wins in the tournament in over 20 years. And now excuses as to why our home schedule is crap.

This may be the Bourbon talking, (Angel's Envy) but im just sick and flippin tired of hearing excuses about this program.

FieldGoodie05 · August 28, 2019, 09:27:40 PM

Quote from: VUBBFan on August 28, 2019, 05:20:32 PM

Quote from: NativeCheesehead on August 28, 2019, 05:07:44 PMThree non con D1 home games. Unbelievable.
That's what happens when two Quality name D I schools pull out at the last minute and there are no Quality D I school willing or able to replace them. Otherwise it would have been a fairly good home stand. Unfortunately we had to settle for less for the replacements. I don't fault our athletic department,
they seemed to have had a good home schedule in place before GW & Vandy bailed.

There's no contending they did a fine job scheduling until the bottom fell out (and we were compensated).

VUBBFan · August 28, 2019, 09:42:12 PM

I'm not really that excited about the home schedule but I can't blame Valpo coaches/admin for it. If Vandy & GW didn't drop out this would have been a very good schedule.

Valpo made a good schedule and made it very expensive for these two a$$hole schools to backout (thinking that would make them uphold the contract) but they did anyways. The fault is not with Valpo but with the other schools. Not an excuse - just a fact.

oklahomamick · August 28, 2019, 09:56:01 PM

Ok, George Washington and Vandy buying out contracts is a good excuse for this year.

But what about all the other years?

covufan · August 28, 2019, 10:00:05 PM

The Toledo and Central Michigan games will be good games. We need to win those games. Hope we can continue home and home series with these and other MAC teams

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vu84v2 · August 28, 2019, 10:12:29 PM

This is not a great non-conference schedule, but it is probably better than I expected. North Dakota and Central Michigan are decent home games (though I agree that having both on Sunday afternoon seems to make little sense). Only one non-D1 game (would have preferred none). My other gripe is, Why on earth is Valpo playing a low-D1 program like SIU-E? If it is due to the advancement people wanting an event in St. Louis, don't they already get that with the Saint Louis game?

valpospartan · August 28, 2019, 10:17:30 PM

Quote from: valpopal on August 28, 2019, 07:24:04 PM
Got to be honest: the non-con home schedule is pure crap. Only three D-1 team games, one is on a Sunday afternoon during NFL season, another is after classes end and the day before final exams. Another game is Thanksgiving eve when students are away. No Friday or Saturday games except the 5 p.m. exhibition against a D-2 team in October. If you wanted to assure apathy from the student body, this is the schedule you'd create.

Not to mention that the last 2 home games of the year are Nov. 27 & Dec 8. 3 weeks without a home game.

VALPO LI · August 28, 2019, 10:28:30 PM

Quote from: valpospartan on August 28, 2019, 10:17:30 PM
Quote from: valpopal on August 28, 2019, 07:24:04 PM
Got to be honest: the non-con home schedule is pure crap. Only three D-1 team games, one is on a Sunday afternoon during NFL season, another is after classes end and the day before final exams. Another game is Thanksgiving eve when students are away. No Friday or Saturday games except the 5 p.m. exhibition against a D-2 team in October. If you wanted to assure apathy from the student body, this is the schedule you'd create.
Not to mention that the last 2 home games of the year are Nov. 27 & Dec 8. 3 weeks without a home game.

The only logical reason is that the University is taking all the $$$ from the buyouts and investing in upgrading the ARC just before conference play! 3 week reno.

M · August 28, 2019, 10:34:38 PM

Even with vandy and GW it was only going to be 3 D1 home games (though much better names). Have to believe that North Dakota and Central michigan replaced those two. Not enough home games to make my a$$ groove in my upper deck bleacher seat before conference games start.

FieldGoodie05 · August 29, 2019, 06:29:59 AM

Quote from: vu84v2 on August 28, 2019, 10:12:29 PM
This is not a great non-conference schedule, but it is probably better than I expected. North Dakota and Central Michigan are decent home games (though I agree that having both on Sunday afternoon seems to make little sense). Only one non-D1 game (would have preferred none). My other gripe is, Why on earth is Valpo playing a low-D1 program like SIU-E? If it is due to the advancement people wanting an event in St. Louis, don't they already get that with the Saint Louis game?

The timing of the SLU game news made me think THAT was one of the Vandy / GW game replacements.

Also, it would be interesting to see what fellow MVC teams home schedules look like. Some of you guys just love a reason to complain. If it's not the ARC remodel it's this...geesh.

IrishDawg · August 29, 2019, 06:52:48 AM

GW was an awful team last year. Not sure why losing them deflates the home schedule when CMU was a much better team last year and still likely will be this year. Losing Vandy I get, but once Bryce was fired, I would have been shocked if the game at Valpo happened.

It's not much of a change from previous home non-conference schedules, to be honest. Not something for casual fans to be excited for, but Toledo and CMU should test them, and the game against Arkansas is at a perfect time if you want to steal one on the road.

elephtheria47 · August 29, 2019, 07:00:03 AM

While we think $200k is a high buy out, it's pocket change for a place like Vanderbilt. (Not sure about the GW buyout). Vanderbilt's arena sits over 14k, but let's just say they fill our game with a home game and hit their 2018 avg attendance of 9,158 at $20 a ticket. That's $180k right there just in ticket sales. Fill it with a quality opponent and it's very reasonable that they can make money by buying Valpo out at 200k. Shame on anyone who thought $200k would keep them coming to Valpo, that wasnt enough to make them even think twice about it.

VUGrad1314 · August 29, 2019, 08:21:52 AM

They got legitimately screwed over this year so I won't complain too much but this home schedule isn't very good. Also hate that we still have a non-D1 on the schedule and I REALLY hope we're not doing another Home and Home with SIUE. At least we're playing more MAC teams, though probably not teams that will be near the top of the conference. That said for what the MVC is now post scheduling mandate it's an MVC level schedule. I think Evansville's (which just came out) is better though. They got SMU (an AAC team) to come to the Ford Center.