Here we go.....

[NativeCheesehead]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/29/ncaa-allows-athletes-to-be-compensated-for-names-images.html

[oklahomamick]

Need to take out the word student on the student/athlete and also remove the word amateur. 

Does this further the gap between mid-majors and P6?  Prospective student/athletes?

[M]

I'd like to see a ceiling on what they can make.

[VUGrad1314]

I don't think it will because the schools won't be paying the athletes directly from what I understand. They'll just be allowed to do endorsements and stuff. That said, companies are going to want to steer the bigger athletes to the blue blood programs for exposure and marketing's sake but nothing really changes there because those kids were already going to those schools for those same reasons (and getting paid for it to boot but we're not supposed to talk about that)

[NativeCheesehead]

So how many of our guys will be doing Family Express commercials once this is put in place?

[valpo64]

Do you think that this new NCAA policy will cause some "friction", team unrest  or some guys doing their own thing in order to gain some publicity or extra cash, which could cause some lack of the "team" concept and cohesiveness?

[crusader05]

Honestly I think it's fine. I remember reading that because of this some students couldn't even have their own side businesses that had nothing to do with their sport because it was still "their likeness". I think the example was a couple of football players at a school that was not a blue blood had a t-shirt business and they got shut down.

Also, like, if someone wants to sign some memorabilia for a free tattoo say I don't see why that's the NCAA business. The school can say the scholarships are for the playing time and so that's a payment but I never rested easily with them saying "also we own your actual identity and you can't even inadvertently make money."

Most of this stuff was happening off the record at big programs anyway and I can't see it being a huge deal unless the student themselves does not handle it appropriately but honestly, you know you're the star whether you get the money or not and that's either going to go to your head or not

[Just Sayin]

Do you think that this new NCAA policy will cause some "friction", team unrest  or some guys doing their own thing in order to gain some publicity or extra cash, which could cause some lack of the "team" concept and cohesiveness?

"I don't think it would affect anything," Kiser said. "We're all friends. If somebody is getting more publicity and stuff, it's not that big of a deal.

Did he forget about human nature? I think this is a bad idea.

The NCAA's arguments for not doing this in the past apparently meant nothing.  I think the NCAA is caving to California rather than standing on principle. But hey, like LeBron James, who is soooo concerned about his principles which makes him think that people are oppressed in this country and that he feels the need to express those feelings at every opportunity; but, where real oppression exists in communist China, when it comes to  MONEY,  he finds a way to ignore his deeply-held principles and he is silent. As if China told him to just dribble and shut up. He obsequiously obliged.  It's ALWAYS about money.

[valpo64]

Could the next big thing in college athletics be the taxing of scholarship and outside money the athlete received?

[crusader05]

any money made via sponsorships or outside businesses trading on the student's likeness or just in the students name would be taxed because it would be income. It makes no sense to tax scholarships as it's not income and how can you tax sports scholarships and not say  music  or academic scholarships.

[FWalum]

This is cluster *you know what*.  No one has really thought this through. Of course it will affect the P6 vs Mid Major situation, duh... what kid wouldn't be influenced by the potential marketing opportunity of a P6 school earning them MONEY. Maybe I am not giving these kids enough credit, but why wouldn't they think "if I score 15 PPG  I might make a few thousand $$ more than if I score 10 PPG, so I think I will chuck the ball up a few more times a game"?  If money is involved, what kid will not become more focused on their "brand" than on the universities "team"? I know that not all kids will be like that, but there will be some and that will be a cancer for a team.

I think there might be ways to minimize these scenarios with well thought out guidelines, but if kids are allowed to hire agents and pursue individual marketing opportunities then all bets are off.

[valpo95]

There are a few national personalities that have said that this won't be a problem, because the playing field is already not level. They use examples like Alabama boosters paying off Nick Saban's house, the locker rooms at LSU or the nap pods at the football facility at Clemson, that those give them recruiting advantages over other programs. Sure, those must factor in, as many kids would like to play for Nick Saban, or have shiny new facilities. Others also have noted that a student on a music scholarship can get paid for outside performances right now, so why not a basketball player?

However, the problem comes in when one school says, "Any player that come to school ZZZZ will get $10,000 to do an appearance at our auto dealership."  Or, "Any five-star recruit that joins school ZZZZ will get paid $250,000 as part of a marketing campaign for my oil company." Of course, kids will be influenced by those sorts of promises, and not every school has those deep-pocketed donors. Such cash incentives to an individual are way different than what one coach gets paid, or how fancy a locker room might be.

On one hand, I get how that it is unfair to place restrictions on an individual athlete from making money on his/her name, image and likeness. Yet what the NCAA is doing is trying to provide a more level playing field for all of the universities - we already know that there is corruption in recruiting, and this will only make it worse.

[FWalum]

Others also have noted that a student on a music scholarship can get paid for outside performances right now, so why not a basketball player?

I heard that analogy valpo95 and nearly busted a gut LOL. What, the average music scholarship kid might get paid to sing or play at a wedding, or perhaps make a couple of $100 performing at a restaurant or bar on the weekends??? Yes I know it was a gazillion years a go but been there and done that, what a joke. When a music scholarship kid goes on tour (to promote the university) they virtually get nothing other than transportation and donated meals so the university can set up a booth at the venue and recruit prospective students. You and I both know that to compare the perks of a music scholarship and a basketball scholarship is nothing but laughable and you rightly point out the cesspool the NCAA is about to jump into.

I also think that it is unfair for a university or even ESPN to make gobs of money off of a scholarship athletes' name, image and likeness, but the "fairness" needs to be determined before we jump into this with both feet.  As we discuss ad nauseam about facilities for these athletes to perform, who determines where the funds to build, improve and maintain these structures, comes from? How much is the athlete's  responsibility for maintaining this facility that allows them to create their "brand". In other words, what is the split between university and athlete.  What happens when a university spends money on marketing an athlete and that athlete leaves??? Are athletes going to have to sign contracts or non-competes in order for universities to market their brand?? This will go on and on and on and the lawsuits will pile up and up.

[valpo64]

Amen! We have only begun to scratch the surface of this mess the NCAA has created.  Once again the larger schools will pull even farther away from the mid-majors and the money will flow like honey.  Current cheaters will become even bigger cheaters.  This whole thing just reinforces my thinking that mid-majors should have their own governing body and let the power conferences be on their own as they head toward becoming another level of professional sports where some, many or all of the athletes also attend a class or two at a big-time university while they play their respective sports.

[valpotx]

The 80s/90s kid in me hopes that this happens, and eventually leads to the return of EA Sports' NCAA Football and Basketball games

[valpo84]

An oldie but a goodie....

https://www.bloggersodear.com/2011/9/21/2439658/ncaa-boiling-point-our-conference-on-the-left-is-now-our-conference