Transfers 2020

[valpotx]

I assume that this is a clerical error?

https://247sports.com/Player/Marten-Linssen-46100981/

[vu72]

Marcus Henderson is leaving Evansville.  That's three for Evansville and 23 for the Valley.  Valpo and Loyola are the only two with none.  (knock on wood!) National total up to 696.  Total last year was 996.

[crusader05]

I thought Paul tweeted about someone from Loyola  yesterday but I can't remember the name.

[justducky]

I thought Paul tweeted about someone from Loyola  yesterday but I can't remember the name.

Jalon Pipkins who is a 6' 4" guard. He played big minutes against us at the ARC but his role shrank when their team got healthy. He wasn't a great shooter either from 3 or from 2 and he should be pretty easily replaceable.

[vu72]

I thought Paul tweeted about someone from Loyola  yesterday but I can't remember the name.

Jalon Pipkins who is a 6' 4" guard. He played big minutes against us at the ARC but his role shrank when their team got healthy. He wasn't a great shooter either from 3 or from 2 and he should be pretty easily replaceable.

Yep. My bad!  That is his second transfer and as we have found out, kids who have transferred twice only seem to be trouble.

[valpotx]

Brandon Wood gave us a good 2 years and graduated with a Valpo degree, so I don't think that comment applies to all double transfers. 

[valpo64]

I don't understand the Marten Linssen post regarding a transfer back to Valpo.

[EddieCabot]

Brandon Wood gave us a good 2 years and graduated with a Valpo degree, so I don't think that comment applies to all double transfers.

True.  I just wish he had stopped at two!

[wh]

Brandon Wood gave us a good 2 years and graduated with a Valpo degree, so I don't think that comment applies to all double transfers. 

Brandon is a perfect example of how a mid major player chasing a dream to play in the NBA by transferring to a major program is a bridge to nowhere. Ditto Smits. In fact, Smits went from a decent mid center to a P-6 afterthought. This has been and will always be nothing more than a P-6 power grab for their own selfish purpose. The players are merely pawns in a chess game.

[vu72]

Brandon is a perfect example of how a mid major player chasing a dream to play in the NBA by transferring to a major program is a bridge to nowhere

Althoug Brandon may well have been player of the year in the Horizon, his success at MSU was no small  thing.  Unlike say, Derrik, who went froma 12ppg part-time starter to a weak, little used bench player, Brandon was a part-starter at MSU.  I saw him play at Minnesota and no doubt, he was the best player on the court.  He also got to play in the NCAAs and on an air-craft carrier in from of the President.  It certainly gave him experiences that he wouldn't have had at Valpo. He has used the added exposure of being able to say he played at MSU to help build his Brandon Wood Foundation.  He is a special guy.

[valpotx]

I don't understand the Marten Linssen post regarding a transfer back to Valpo.

Thus my query on whether that is just a clerical error by that site .  I have to believe so, but thought that I would throw that out there.

[IrishDawg]

Brandon is a perfect example of how a mid major player chasing a dream to play in the NBA by transferring to a major program is a bridge to nowhere

Althoug Brandon may well have been player of the year in the Horizon, his success at MSU was no small  thing.  Unlike say, Derrik, who went froma 12ppg part-time starter to a weak, little used bench player, Brandon was a part-starter at MSU.  I saw him play at Minnesota and no doubt, he was the best player on the court.  He also got to play in the NCAAs and on an air-craft carrier in from of the President.  It certainly gave him experiences that he wouldn't have had at Valpo. He has used the added exposure of being able to say he played at MSU to help build his Brandon Wood Foundation.  He is a special guy.

Derrik's lack of playing time had more to do with being injured basically the entire year.  Doubtful he would have been a starter even if had been healthy, but still injury was a far bigger impact on his playing time than where he ended up at.

[vuny98]

Brandon is a perfect example of how a mid major player chasing a dream to play in the NBA by transferring to a major program is a bridge to nowhere

Althoug Brandon may well have been player of the year in the Horizon, his success at MSU was no small  thing.  Unlike say, Derrik, who went froma 12ppg part-time starter to a weak, little used bench player, Brandon was a part-starter at MSU.  I saw him play at Minnesota and no doubt, he was the best player on the court.  He also got to play in the NCAAs and on an air-craft carrier in from of the President.  It certainly gave him experiences that he wouldn't have had at Valpo. He has used the added exposure of being able to say he played at MSU to help build his Brandon Wood Foundation.  He is a special guy.

Derrik's lack of playing time had more to do with being injured basically the entire year.  Doubtful he would have been a starter even if had been healthy, but still injury was a far bigger impact on his playing time than where he ended up at.

If you remember, Butler was also playing amazing basketball the first half of the year while Smits was out injured. They played small ball really well and when he came back, inserting him no longer matched what their game plan/strength was. He moved to a team where he thought he'd be the missing peice only to find the team didn't need him like he/they thought they would. That's the risk of transferring. Grass is not always greener.

[usc4valpo]

In reality, I don't understand why people thought Smits was so good. Not to mention his constant whining. Dobbins is better overall.

[JD24]

Brandon is a perfect example of how a mid major player chasing a dream to play in the NBA by transferring to a major program is a bridge to nowhere

Althoug Brandon may well have been player of the year in the Horizon, his success at MSU was no small  thing.  Unlike say, Derrik, who went froma 12ppg part-time starter to a weak, little used bench player, Brandon was a part-starter at MSU.  I saw him play at Minnesota and no doubt, he was the best player on the court.  He also got to play in the NCAAs and on an air-craft carrier in from of the President.  It certainly gave him experiences that he wouldn't have had at Valpo. He has used the added exposure of being able to say he played at MSU to help build his Brandon Wood Foundation.  He is a special guy.

Derrik's lack of playing time had more to do with being injured basically the entire year.  Doubtful he would have been a starter even if had been healthy, but still injury was a far bigger impact on his playing time than where he ended up at.

If you remember, Butler was also playing amazing basketball the first half of the year while Smits was out injured. They played small ball really well and when he came back, inserting him no longer matched what their game plan/strength was. He moved to a team where he thought he'd be the missing peice only to find the team didn't need him like he/they thought they would. That's the risk of transferring. Grass is not always greener.

Stopping the ball for 10 seconds while he figures out what he's going to do with the ball probably didn't play well with the rest of the roster.

[vu72]

Don't look now but Northern Iowa may have just gotten even better.  Though he will need to sit a year (unless they change the rule), they just added 3* 6'7" SF, Goanar Mar, who trnsferred in from George Mason.

[M]

I wouldn't get too worked up...unless he really improves over his year off I wouldn't sweat that 2.4 ppg. None of his other stats leap off the paper either (except that 3P%, lol). He played a good amount of minutes too.

Recruiting stars are overrated.

[Valpower]

I wouldn't get too worked up...unless he really improves over his year off I wouldn't sweat that 2.4 ppg. None of his other stats leap off the paper either (except that 3P%, lol). He played a good amount of minutes too.

Recruiting stars are overrated.

He started every game as a freshman and put up some good numbers.  An injury his sophomore season seemed to have hampered his sophomore year and the season after saw limited minutes and production.  If he's healthy he might provide a lift.  But yes, recruiting stars are overrated. They tend to overemphasize NBA-type athleticism and undervalue IQ and character.

[vu72]

Another Evansville defection and this time it is a big loss. DeAndre Williams is leaving.  He dropped 28 on us in one game.  That is 4 for Evansville and brings the league total to 22.  National total is now up to 791.

[PlumStreetBum]

Another Evansville defection and this time it is a big loss. DeAndre Williams is leaving.  He dropped 28 on us in one game.  That is 4 for Evansville and brings the league total to 22.  National total is now up to 791.

Ouch

[VUGrad1314]

That sucks but my understanding is that that was not unexpected. I feel so bad for Evansville though. They've been down for so long and had a glimmer of hope for about a year and now they are in worse shape than ever.  I hope their fortunes will improve soon. That program and those fans deserve it. They deserve a long period of sustained success.

[EddieCabot]

Another Evansville defection and this time it is a big loss. DeAndre Williams is leaving.  He dropped 28 on us in one game.  That is 4 for Evansville and brings the league total to 22.  National total is now up to 791.

This will be an interesting situation to watch.  Williams is extremely talented, but he's at least 22 years old already so it seems odd that he'd want to sit out another season.

[VUGrad1314]

Does he have an NBA future? He's a really good player but older prospects often get overlooked. He'll probably have a nice career overseas.

[FWalum]

When was the Williams defection posted?  Interesting that in Harry Schroeder's article in the Valley Hoops Insider from April 17th the thought was the Williams was staying at UE. Harry also had a nice interview with Paul Oren on the podcast. http://www.valleyhoopsinsider.com/mvc-offseason-update-ue-valpo/

[M]

Think it was yesterday