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Started by M, March 08, 2020, 07:33:28 PM

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bbtds

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 27, 2020, 01:21:08 AMBars (though he may have graduated)

Koch Bar will graduate from Bradley when/if they finally have a end of semester graduation ceremony.
The Bradley University website shows that a graduation ceremony is scheduled to take place in
May 16 at Carver Arena (the Braves home court).

vuny98

Quote from: 4throwfan on March 26, 2020, 12:48:12 PMJust curious because I don't know how recruiting and transferring works - but is the transfer network shut down with the rest of the economy.  In other words, when things start happening again, will there be a flood of transfers.  Seems like the total number of transfers across the country is way, way down, and I assume that this is related to the shutdown.  If the country-wide 'timeout' goes too long, do would-be transfers say "too late now, I'll stay where I'm at for now"?  I guess I'm just curious as to what the summer transfer list looks like, assuming things start to veer toward 'normal'.
I would assume a lot of the transfers would occur/be discussed at close out meetings with coaches and staff at the end of the season. Since the schools closed abruptly and the season never got a clean end to it, there are probably a lot of athletes waiting on those meetings to discuss/announce/decide on their next steps. I would think the ones that have announced already knew well in advance that they wanted to transfer. Likely to be many more once people are allowed back on campus.

vu72

The pace is quickening.  Two more from the Valley:  Shandon "Biggie" Goldman from Northern Iowa and Karrington Davis from Southern Illinois. Davis was a 3 star who had previously played at Nebraska. The total is at 496 and Wichita State is up to 8!!!!
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

VUGrad1314

Goldman transferred awhile ago. No big loss. Davis was sitting out I think. Losing a 3 star isn't good from a talent perspective but it could be from a team perspective. Maybe he just didn't fit Mullns' team culture that well. Let's remember that the last 3 star recruit from Nebraska we had didn't exactly work out so well.

vu72

Two more Valley transfers, brings the total to 13.  Sean Houpt from Bradley and Ray Idowu from Illinois State.  National total seems to be picking up some speed.  Total now at 535.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

VUGrad1314

Finally found one that could really be felt. Idowu had a lot of potential and played well for awhile.

VUGrad1314

Chastain and Bruninga now medically retiring from playing basketball for Illinois State. Always sad to see that.

vu72

Art Labinowitz from Evansville is transferring.  Part time starter averaged 7.3 ppg.  Valley total up to 14, National total to 547.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

4throwfan

I wonder how many would-be transfers are waiting for rule change on immediate eligibility.  If that rule change is delayed, it may be causing a delay. 

vu72

Aaron Cook is transferring from Southern Illinois. Their website says he was a senior so either he is a red-shirt senior or verbal commits has it wrong.  He was an impact player being their leading scorer. That bring their total up to 4 and the total for the Valley to 15.  National total up to 556.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: FWalum on March 30, 2020, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 30, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Aaron Cook is transferring from Southern Illinois. Their website says he was a senior so either he is a red-shirt senior or verbal commits has it wrong.  He was an impact player being their leading scorer. That bring their total up to 4 and the total for the Valley to 15.  National total up to 556.
I guess that means they are losing a total of 6 players as senior guard Matt Chastain and junior forward Taylor Bruninga have decided to end their playing careers due to chronic injuries.

Those 2 are Illinois State (medical)

IndyValpo

Quote from: vu72 on March 30, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Aaron Cook is transferring from Southern Illinois. Their website says he was a senior so either he is a red-shirt senior or verbal commits has it wrong.  He was an impact player being their leading scorer. That bring their total up to 4 and the total for the Valley to 15.  National total up to 556.
He only played in 6 games this season, I am assuming he was injured

vu72

Quote from: IndyValpo on March 30, 2020, 03:45:03 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 30, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Aaron Cook is transferring from Southern Illinois. Their website says he was a senior so either he is a red-shirt senior or verbal commits has it wrong.  He was an impact player being their leading scorer. That bring their total up to 4 and the total for the Valley to 15.  National total up to 556.
He only played in 6 games this season, I am assuming he was injured

Yes he was but could have come back next year as a 5th year senior and clearly would have been one of their leaders.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

vu72

Drake loses Antonio Pilipovic, a grad transfer, who was a rotation player averaged 2.7 ppg.  That's number 16 for the Valley.  National total now 575.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

crusadermoe

Assuming that is D-1 only and 340 schhols-ish.   So in round terms 1.5 per school across the country and about 1.5 in the MVC.  Valpo zero and holding.   Glad we dumped 3 years worth last year. 

vu72

Pace is quickening.  Missouri State loses two. Tyrik Dixon, who was a starter but was injured as he only played in 17 games, and Ford Cooper who also started five games. Bring the Valley total to 18 and the National total now at 603.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

govalpogo

Still early (knocking on wood, crossing fingers, praying, holding breath, etc)  but I would classify having an offseason with 0 or 1 transfer as an even more impressive feat for this coaching staff than the above .500 finish to the season.  That is a QUICK cultural turnaround no matter what business or industry you're in. 

vuny98

Quote from: govalpogo on April 01, 2020, 08:18:56 AMStill early (knocking on wood, crossing fingers, praying, holding breath, etc)  but I would classify having an offseason with 0 or 1 transfer as an even more impressive feat for this coaching staff than the above .500 finish to the season.  That is a QUICK cultural turnaround no matter what business or industry you're in.
More importantly, I really like our core of players. It's not like in some years past where I kind of hoped we would lose a few guys so we could retool to beef up the lineup. There are a few guys that won't contribute much that we could lose and be ok, but overall I like the team we have.

vu72

Grad transfer John Hall is leaving Evansville. Brings the Valley to 19 transfers. National total up to 615.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

vu72

So. Harwin Francois is transferring from Southern Illinois.  Made six starts last year. That's five for the Salukis and 20 for the Valley.  National total up to 639.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

justducky

#95
Liam Robbins from Drake looks like the first Valley transfer that really hurts. Some speculation he might head to Iowa.

Looked up the numbers for our Iowa transfer Bakari Evelyn to see how he did.
31 games, 570 minutes (18.4 per game), 48 rebounds, 61 assists, 43 T/O, 11 steals

What is most interesting is his shooting as he hit only 34-100 shots for 34%. Most were 3 pointers 20-67 for .299%. Looking at that we can guess that he was asked to distribute instead of shoot or drive and was usually the shooter or chucker of last resort. Had he stayed at Valpo I doubt if he would have played much more and his role might have been very similar (distribute but don't shoot).

vu72

Quote from: justducky on April 04, 2020, 03:26:08 PM
Liam Robbins from Drake looks like the first Valley transfer that really hurts. Some speculation he might head to Iowa.

Looked up the numbers for our Iowa transfer Bakari Evelyn to see how he did.
31 games, 570 minutes (18.4 per game), 48 rebounds, 61 assists, 43 T/O, 11 steals

What is most interesting is his shooting as he hit only 34-100 shots for 34%. Most were 3 pointers 20-67 for .299%. Looking at that we can guess that he was asked to distribute instead of shoot or drive and was usually the shooter of last resort. Had he stayed at Valpo I doubt if he would have played much more and his role might have been very similar (distribute but don't shoot).

Wow!  that's a big one (literally!)  ::)
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

VU2014

I like HH but this tweet caused a $hit storm on twitter with Valley fans. Why be happy when other teams good players transfer? We should be rooting for other teams to be strong because it raises the play and profile of the league over time. Need to think big picture.

Plus, how would we feel if other fan-bases celebrated when it looked like JFL was going to transfer last off-season? It's bad taste, imo.

The MVC is much more of a community than the Horizon League and we should root for each other outside of the Conference regular season and when we go head to head in recruiting battles with them. As rising tide lifts all boats.

https://twitter.com/TSeghetti11/status/1246532027408691217?s=20
https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/1246531466055561223?s=20

tiny707

Agree with you Valpo Hoops but Nick from Illinois State is still an ass. HH is is a youngster and hopefully learned something.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: VU2014 on April 04, 2020, 09:41:36 PM
I like HH but this tweet caused a $hit storm on twitter with Valley fans. Why be happy when other teams good players transfer? We should be rooting for other teams to be strong because it raises the play and profile of the league over time. Need to think big picture.

Plus, how would we feel if other fan-bases celebrated when it looked like JFL was going to transfer last off-season? It's bad taste, imo.

The MVC is much more of a community than the Horizon League and we should root for each other outside of the Conference regular season and when we go head to head in recruiting battles with them. As rising tide lifts all boats.

https://twitter.com/TSeghetti11/status/1246532027408691217?s=20
https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/1246531466055561223?s=20

Honest question, does Happening Hoops post on this forum?  Who is he to us on this forum?  I know some of you follow him on twitter and other mediums but is he active here?