MVC Hoops 2020-2021

[VUGrad1314]

I hope I'm not being too presumptuous by starting these threads  but I just thought this was cool and was a great place to start this year's thread. If you ever want to find the stats for any year in the MVC with a few exceptions go to the link mentioned here. Great piece by Father Harry and great work by the MVC getting this online!

http://www.valleyhoopsinsider.com/valley-unveils-great-stat-portal/

[VUGrad1314]

Redbirds add an interesting player as a PWO. Looks to be a good get.

https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1264323910465716224

[VU2014]

I'm not sure the world will get back to "normal" by the Winter but it would kind of cool to have a homecoming event based around a home basketball game.

Sounds like it's getting outright cancelled and the next homecoming will be in 2021...

https://twitter.com/valpotorch/status/1266478678072078336?s=21

[VUGrad1314]

This isn't related to MVC Hoops but it speaks to where we are right now in relation to the pandemic: the county fair was cancelled too.)

[VALPO LI]

Did another SEC school just pull a Vanderbilt and pull out of a game at a MVC school?

[VUGrad1314]

Yes. F the P5. This shouldn't be allowed.

[FWalum]

pull out of a game at a MVC school

Yes. F the P5. This shouldn't be allowed.

https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/1267670693250060289?s=20

[bbtds]

But the good news is the Missouri State Fair is still going to happen.

https://www.mostatefair.com/

COVID-19 has certainly brought its challenges to that planning. At this time, we are still moving forward with preparations, although we have altered timelines and are looking at things from all angles. We are communicating with many partners including other county and state fairs, local and state elected officials, public health departments and others to monitor and stay up-to-date on the COVID-19 situation. The safety of our staff, fairgoers and other partners is of utmost importance to us.

[wh]

• The MAC is going to a 20-game MBB conference schedule.
• Only 8 of 12 teams will qualify for the post season tournament.
• The tournament may be played at campus sites to reduce costs. Paying big bucks for an arena with 6-foot social distancing requirements is not realistic at the same time athletic budgets and non-revenue sports are being slashed.
• They are strongly discouraging hosting buy games.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the MVC follow suit and scrap Arch Madness for the same reasons. Maybe even reduce the tournament from 10 teams to 8 - 3 rounds, no byes, all on campus sights, done. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[vu84v2]

• The MAC is going to a 20-game MBB conference schedule.
• Only 8 of 12 teams will qualify for the post season tournament.
• The tournament may be played at campus sites to reduce costs. Paying big bucks for an arena with 6-foot social distancing requirements is not realistic at the same time athletic budgets and non-revenue sports are being slashed.
• They are strongly discouraging hosting buy games.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the MVC follow suit and scrap Arch Madness for the same reasons. Maybe even reduce the tournament from 10 teams to 8 - 3 rounds, no byes, all on campus sights, done. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Your conclusion might be correct, but there is one major difference between the MAC and the MVC. All MAC teams play FBS football and most (if not all teams) rely on football attendance and revenue from buy games. Several MAC teams have reported that there is a high probability of losing $1M+ paydays against teams like Iowa and Michigan. Thus, since the MAC teams will likely still have most costs associated with football, they have major budget issues that conferences without FBS football likely don't have (though Northern Iowa, for instance, might also lose a buy game). Don't be surprised if the same thing happens with the MWC and maybe C-USA, Sun Belt and American Conference.

[VUGrad1314]

I'm also interested to see if a league like the HL keeps up with the tournament in Indy or if they go to campus sites as well. That would probably entice Robert Morris to come aboard as well because they would do very well in the HL from the jump and could host in their beautiful new arena. I don't think the MVC will scrap Arch Madness for this year. It's too entrenched. 30 years of history in a convenient spot for everyone. Campus sites would be cool and would be a nice bone to throw Murray State and Belmont's way if it matters to them; however, I think most schools like the idea of having a big venue to play at at the end of the year so I don't see anything happening.

[VUGrad1314]

This is a good scheduling get by Bradley...

https://twitter.com/MLBLarry/status/1268712375471013888

[VUGrad1314]

Whether this is about how the conference will deal with athletics going forward or about something else (expansion?!) it is still a very good sign.

https://twitter.com/WyattWheeler_NL/status/1270016217051533312

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/tdavisdmr/status/1271609560462233603?s=21

[wh]

https://twitter.com/tdavisdmr/status/1271609560462233603?s=21

Accidentally shoots a friend in the head. Lies about it (a selfish, cowardly act), causing a needless delay in life saving treatment for the victim. Pleaded guilty to 2 minor offenses and received a 5-game suspension. When I see things like this, I don't think I'll ever be able to come to grips with what was done to Jubril for merely turning in a paper that someone else allegedly wrote or helped write.

[VUGrad1314]

I said this on the MVC board but I'll post it here too: If this is true then it's absolutely dispicable and Drake deserves to be sued and possibly face NCAA sanction. If this isn't "A lack of institutional control" I don't know what is.

[wh]

https://twitter.com/tdavisdmr/status/1271609560462233603?s=21

Accidentally shoots a friend in the head. Lies about it (a selfish, cowardly act), causing a needless delay in life saving treatment for the victim. Pleaded guilty to 2 minor offenses and received a 5-game suspension. When I see things like this, I don't think I'll ever be able to come to grips with what was done to Jubril for merely turning in a paper that someone else allegedly wrote or helped write.

Just looked it up. Jubril was suspended for the final 24 games of the 2016-17 season. 24 games for cheating on a school assignment vs. 5 games for shooting your friend in the head and trying to cover it up while your friend lays there on death's doorstep.

Reversing the penalties would make far more sense. Jubril cheats on a course assignment and receives a 5-game penalty. The Drake player accidentally shoots a friend in the head and tries to cover it up and is suspended for the remainder of the season.

[vusupporter]

Not saying I don't agree with that premise, but keep in mind it's comparing apples and oranges - Jubril's suspension was an NCAA-dictated penalty, while Murphy's suspension was an institutional decision.

[EddieCabot]

Just looked it up. Jubril was suspended for the final 24 games of the 2016-17 season. 24 games for cheating on a school assignment vs. 5 games for shooting your friend in the head and trying to cover it up while your friend lays there on death's doorstep.

Reversing the penalties would make far more sense. Jubril cheats on a course assignment and receives a 5-game penalty. The Drake player accidentally shoots a friend in the head and tries to cover it up and is suspended for the remainder of the season.

One of the greatest "what ifs" in Valpo history.  Todd stated on USH that if not for losing Jubril (and Alec's injury), the 2017 was guaranteed to win at least 1 game in the NCAA tourney.  Had Carter rightfully gotten more eligibility, that 2017 team would have been a Sweet 16/Top 25 caliber squad.

[FWalum]

Just looked it up. Jubril was suspended for the final 24 games of the 2016-17 season. 24 games for cheating on a school assignment vs. 5 games for shooting your friend in the head and trying to cover it up while your friend lays there on death's doorstep.

Reversing the penalties would make far more sense. Jubril cheats on a course assignment and receives a 5-game penalty. The Drake player accidentally shoots a friend in the head and tries to cover it up and is suspended for the remainder of the season.

My understanding is that it was not even Jubril who cheated on his own assignment, it was that he gave unauthorized aid to David Skara. This was the reason why Skara was suspended for the beginning of the 2017-18 season at Clemson. This is complete hearsay, I have no direct contact or evidence, but it seemed to make a lot of sense when I heard it. Take it for what it is worth.

[valpotx]

Wow, that would put the Skara transfer in a totally different perspective versus what we originally surmised.  Jubril seemed very educated, so it never made sense that he would have to cheat in order to pass.

[vu72]

New article from Paul Oren:

https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/uncertainty-clouds-valley-basketball-coaches/article_5427ba26-898f-5418-8579-cc537b8436dc.html#utm_source=nwitimes.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fnews-alert&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=e0f70624f98c80330fdc36f64f3768b2ae53c8f2

[VUGrad1314]

Huge news for Bradley! Love to see the conference getting better!

https://twitter.com/bradleyumbb/status/1283173677081731072

[VUGrad1314]

Not hoops related but still significant MVC news. Expected and the right thing to do.

https://twitter.com/MLBLarry/status/1285942404785332224

[VUGrad1314]

Thank goodness... This is terrific news for the MVC...

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1288529638411636736