Game #3 @ Purdue 6:00pm BTN WVUR 95.1

nkvu · December 04, 2020, 08:22:38 PM

Much, much better performance than I expected tonight. The 3 went away as I was afraid it would in the second half. Still they hung in to the end but as what usually happens, not enough to actually get the upset. Now hopefully a couple of easier ones to see what winning is like.

justducky · December 04, 2020, 08:29:58 PM

That was the Nick Robinson who disappeared after the Charlotte injury. I'm glad he is back! I've missed him!

Chairback · December 04, 2020, 08:31:14 PM

Surprised we didn't foul Williams at end. He had two key buckets and would take my chances with him on the line being a bad FT shooter.

I really like Goodnews. Very athletic and long. Took it to the hoop.

GoVU · December 04, 2020, 08:34:03 PM

One good thing about knowing Valpo will always choke in the last 8 minutes against P5 teams, picking Purdue -1.5 at the half

justducky · December 04, 2020, 08:36:23 PM

What was the story on Edwards and Lorange?

a3uge · December 04, 2020, 08:38:40 PM

Kudos for Lottich toying with the rotations. Playing Sheboygan and Goodnews a ton of minutes and riding Robinson who was hot. Reducing minutes for Parker Hazen 2.0. Obviously they're never going to win a game like that vs a Big 10 team when the refs decide to call 32 fouls and put the entire team in foul trouble in the first 8 minutes... But I'm a bit more optimistic with some of the other underclassmen. Obviously need a few more pieces, but they've got some players to build around (until they transfer [emoji24]).

crusader05 · December 04, 2020, 08:45:04 PM

Lorange was out with a finger injury. Edwards was in for a bit but seems like he's sitting until they feel more coMay with him being able to work in the system

wh · December 04, 2020, 08:47:54 PM

First game I've gotten to watch this season. I see an abundance of skilled young players with excellent potential. I see exciting basketball ahead. Oh, and whichever gloom and doomer said we have HL talent is wrong. I should know better than to read post game comments after a loss.

a3uge · December 04, 2020, 08:50:54 PM

Quote from: wh on December 04, 2020, 08:47:54 PM
First game I've gotten to watch this season. I see an abundance of skilled young players with excellent potential. I see exciting basketball ahead. Oh, and whichever gloom and doomer said we have HL talent is wrong. I should know better than to read post game comments after a loss.

I stand by my point that this would be probably good enough talent to be at the top of the Horizon and give Valpo a reasonable shot to get a bid. This isn't enough talent to compete in the MVC.

AlaskaCrusader19 · December 04, 2020, 08:54:10 PM

Good showing by the team tonight! I liked seeing Ognacevic knock some shots down and the team playing aggressive on offense. This may be something to build on. While Purdue certainly didn't play their best, that was still a great effort.

wh · December 04, 2020, 08:56:12 PM

Quote from: a3uge on December 04, 2020, 08:50:54 PM

Quote from: wh on December 04, 2020, 08:47:54 PM
First game I've gotten to watch this season. I see an abundance of skilled young players with excellent potential. I see exciting basketball ahead. Oh, and whichever gloom and doomer said we have HL talent is wrong. I should know better than to read post game comments after a loss.

I stand by my point that this would be probably good enough talent to be at the top of the Horizon and give Valpo a reasonable shot to get a bid. This isn't enough talent to compete in the MVC.

Had I recalled it was you, I would not have brought it up. You are a patriot and a great American, my friend.

a3uge · December 04, 2020, 08:57:23 PM

Quote from: wh on December 04, 2020, 08:56:12 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 04, 2020, 08:50:54 PM

Quote from: wh on December 04, 2020, 08:47:54 PM
First game I've gotten to watch this season. I see an abundance of skilled young players with excellent potential. I see exciting basketball ahead. Oh, and whichever gloom and doomer said we have HL talent is wrong. I should know better than to read post game comments after a loss.

I stand by my point that this would be probably good enough talent to be at the top of the Horizon and give Valpo a reasonable shot to get a bid. This isn't enough talent to compete in the MVC.

Had I recalled it was you, I would not have brought it up. You are a patriot and a great American, my friend.

[emoji23] Knew I could get you going

M · December 04, 2020, 10:08:20 PM

Heck of an effort. Fouls are almost always a problem with lesser skilled teams visit bigger foes, I was proud of how we hung in there and how some of the young guys played.

Edwards and Siggy found the right spot for themselves with how they've started the first few games. Hopefully that'll wake them up and they'll be back and better.

valpotx · December 05, 2020, 01:13:07 AM

Good to see the effort from the guys today. Another story of so close, but not far enough, against a P5, but if we see more of this team show up, we have a good shot in the MVC.

VALPO LI · December 05, 2020, 08:27:03 AM

Morning news:

https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/sasha-stefanovic-helps-purdue-get-past-pesky-valparaiso/article_a867223f-581f-57e8-ab59-f2603c73829e.html

VALPO LI · December 05, 2020, 08:31:45 AM

Quote from: VALPO LI on December 05, 2020, 08:27:03 AM
Morning news:

https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/sasha-stefanovic-helps-purdue-get-past-pesky-valparaiso/article_a867223f-581f-57e8-ab59-f2603c73829e.html

It sounds like Lottich is getting mad. We are not hearing about Valpo progressing nicely.
I LIKE IT!!!
"I'm tired of moral victories," Valparaiso coach Matt Lottich said. "We need to start getting in the win column. It's a stepping stone. We can't be satisfied. We have to look
in the mirror. Yes, we played an SEC school and a Big Ten school and we played them close, but we still lost."

justducky · December 05, 2020, 08:45:45 AM

Mileek was not a factor and fouled out in less than 10 minutes of play. He has never figured out how to wrestle defensively with a true center while sticking around for half of the potential 40 minutes. I was kind of wondering how well Kiser could have contained their bigs?

Helm is interesting. Looked solid defensively with no TO's. We have a lot of players with near interchangeably equal talents and potentials. How does Matt sort it out to distribute playing time? I can picture a lot of players excelling one night and being quickly hooked to the end of the bench a night later.

humbleopinion · December 05, 2020, 08:55:11 AM

Quote from: justducky on December 05, 2020, 08:45:45 AMHow does Matt sort it out to distribute playing time?

I was amused (confused? dumbfounded?) when the announcer commented that Valpo isn't very deep -- even after Matt had already given ten players minutes.

humbleopinion · December 05, 2020, 08:58:50 AM

Quote from: justducky on December 05, 2020, 08:45:45 AMI was kind of wondering how well Kiser could have contained their bigs?

I was surprised that Emil wasn't given any playing time -- especially as the fouls started stacking up. Is he hurt?

VALPO LI · December 05, 2020, 09:38:07 AM

Quote from: humbleopinion on December 05, 2020, 08:58:50 AM
Quote from: justducky on December 05, 2020, 08:45:45 AMI was kind of wondering how well Kiser could have contained their bigs?

I was surprised that Emil wasn't given any playing time -- especially as the fouls started stacking up. Is he hurt?

As was I, at 6-10 I thought he would be a contributor last night. I haven't seen him play at all this season along with Zion Morgan.

crusader05 · December 05, 2020, 09:42:51 AM

Emil, Morgan, Siggy, and one of the walk ons were all listed as out for the game. Emil and Morgan were out for UIC too

VUGrad1314 · December 05, 2020, 10:53:02 AM

Great effort... Very encouraging... But a loss is a loss... We will not have arrived until we are winning these types of games but this gives me hope that that day might be a lot sooner than I previously thought...

crusadermoe · December 05, 2020, 11:34:28 AM

Don't you guys think we really belonc in the Big Ten now? We can make the ARC work there for a while.

Can we just stop already with all the "why are in the MVC" chatter? After one bad loss, I was starting to wonder if a lot of you guys wanted to take us back to the Mid-Con and get the gang back together with Centenary and peel off IUPUI for all old times sake. We've moved up twice and belong where we are.

Relax a little.

vuny98 · December 05, 2020, 11:48:35 AM

I really wish we wouldn't keep starting Mileek. I think I have said that the past 2 years. He would be a good off the bench option, can hit some buckets as needed but he is not a starter. He fouls out too quickly, too streaky to be counted on for a full game. For every big game there are two duds waiting around the corner.

And I am pretty much right there with Sackey as well. Too many out of control sprints to the basket and unwise contested 3 pointers.

That being said, good performance overall from the team and some bright spots with the a few of the new guys. 0-3 sucks, but hopefully Judson provides a good practice game and we can compete well against the MAC teams before conference starts.

VUGrad1314 · December 05, 2020, 01:22:07 PM

Quote from: crusadermoe on December 05, 2020, 11:34:28 AMDon't you guys think we really belonc in the Big Ten now? We can make the ARC work there for a while. Can we just stop already with all the "why are in the MVC" chatter? After one bad loss, I was starting to wonder if a lot of you guys wanted to take us back to the Mid-Con and get the gang back together with Centenary and peel off IUPUI for all old times sake. We've moved up twice and belong where we are. Relax a little.

I'm not questioning why we are in the MVC I'm waiting for us to finally start pulling our weight with our new peers... Big difference...