Arch Madness

[valpotx]

Sackey cannot make a wide open f'ing layup... 

[oklahomamick]

We suck.  And we don't even have a mascot. 

[valpolaw]

This is downright embarrassing. I told myself I wasn't drinking tonight....

[VUSL98]

With this many misses, shouldn't there be more offensive rebounds?

[valpotx]

13 points in a half.  Did this year's team set a new record?  Absolutely pathetic shooting from a D-1 team. 

[nkvu]

Is this our lowest points scored in the first half ever?

[oklahomamick]

Yes this is our lowest scoring 1st half of the year and we have had some low ones.

[NativeCheesehead]

Lottich will say some BS in the postgame about not hitting shots, etc. But EVERY year we have have epidemics of poor shot selection and scoring droughts.

Skilled teams have NO problem taking away our offense. We are easily scouted and adjusted for. ML has to evolve as a coach.

[valpolaw]

I'm convinced that 5 random people from this board could take the floor and score more than 13 points in a half

[covufan]

The first five minutes of the second half better be the most intense of the season.


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[oklahomamick]

I can't tell.  But do we set a play up for our best 3 point shooter to have a spot shot on the arc?   You know those set plays we would run to get Alec Peters opened.  Everyone knew he could shoot.  But we ran plays that got him open looks.

[bbtds]

We're just hiding Ognacevic so that we can come storming back. What other reason could there be for an over 50% three point shooter to take ZERO, that's ZERO three point shots.

Sheboygan Sharpshooter just became the Sheboygone No-shooter.

[valpotx]

I am kind of glad that this season is ending.  We can be so terrible, it just causes me to get apathetic about Valpo basketball.  I really don't care what happens this Summer in regards to transfers, to be honest, except for Barrett, JO, and Krikke. We need guys that can shoot at a high %, not volume shooters that live below 40% overall, and below 25% from 3.

Edit: I'll add Edwards to my list.  I still don't like his basketball IQ at times throughout the game, but he at least doesn't give up and has potential.

[Chairback]

Did anyone expect anything different?  This has been a tough 4 years. 

See you all next season. 

[vu72]

 a VERY short handed Drake team,(down two all league players) just beat Missouri State and will go to the finals.  Wow!  And we beat them when they still had Penn.  That probably means we get two teams in the tourney.  Huge win for the League's best coach.

[justducky]

a VERY short handed Drake team,(down two all league players) just beat Missouri State and will go to the finals.  Wow!  And we beat them when they still had Penn.  That probably means we get two teams in the tourney.  Huge win for the League's best coach.

Loyola now with a NET 17 should be in. Drake at NET 42 has a real shot with a close loss. MSU at NET 94 probably is out as an NIT at-large but it could be close.

[VUGrad1314]

a VERY short handed Drake team,(down two all league players) just beat Missouri State and will go to the finals.  Wow!  And we beat them when they still had Penn.  That probably means we get two teams in the tourney.  Huge win for the League's best coach.

Loyola now with a NET 17 should be in. Drake at NET 42 has a real shot with a close loss. MSU at NET 94 probably is out as an NIT at-large but it could be close.

I think the NIT is only 16 teams this year. If so they are certainly out unless a lot of power conference teams just flat out don't want to play this year.

[VUGrad1314]

I want to believe that Drake is safely in at this point but I just don't trust the committee. I think a close loss might get it done but winning it outright removes all doubt and gives PO something to write about with the huge NWI connections on the Bulldogs.  Some help on the bubble would help me feel a lot easier about things come Selection Sunday. Drake already got some help today with Mizzou losing to LSU at home and SLU losing big to St Bonaventure. If Davidson can beat VCU and then lose to SBU that would help a lot as well. But I mean come on: I know their schedule isn't good but neither is anybody's this year. They have six wins in the top 2 quadrants and zero Q4 losses. And they've done this without their top two scorers for a significant stretch. Cut the Bulldogs a break even if it is in the First Four. They deserve a shot and I really want them to get it.

[JD24]

I was reading one site listing bids from all conferences and it appeared that they felt Drake would have to win Arch Madness for the MVC to get two teams in. In other words no at large for Drake but an at large for Loyola if Drake beats them.

[wh]

Just watched No.2 Morehead State down No. 1 Belmont 86-71 to win the OVC championship.

[JD24]

Just watched No.2 Morehead State down No. 1 Belmont 86-71 to win the OVC championship.

Belmont I thought was a pretty big favorite in that game. One bid conference.

[VUGrad1314]

I was reading one site listing bids from all conferences and it appeared that they felt Drake would have to win Arch Madness for the MVC to get two teams in. In other words no at large for Drake but an at large for Loyola if Drake beats them.

Unpopular opinion: Drake's resume is about as strong as Loyola's. They have a 6-1 record against the top two quadrants and I'm pretty sure all of their losses are without at least one of Hemphill and Penn. Loyola has a 5-4 record against the top two quadrants and the same number of Q1 wins. Loyola is spotless in the bottom two quadrants and played a tougher schedule overall butthat 6-1 record in Q1 and Q2 speaks volumes to me. As of right now here is a list of teams those 6 wins are equal to or greater than:

Equal to:
Houston
San Diego State
Tennessee
Maryland
UConn
Oklahoma
Penn State
Seton Hall
Duke

More than
St Bonaventure
SLU
UCLA
Arizona
Virginia Tech
Boise State
Utah State
Colorado State 
Syracuse
Xavier

Consider the injuries and the relative number of opportunities Drake has vs most of these other teams by virtue of conference affiliation and I feel that they are being treated very unfairly by being told that they absolutely HAVE to win Arch Madness to get in.

I realize most of these teams have more opportunities ahead of them and many of them will probably take advantage but come on. My message to the committee is this: Either you're going to make good on your promise to take injuries into consideration when evaluating teams or you're all just full of crap and need to just admit that you're in the bag for the elite conferences and abandon any pretense of fairness. You gave Belmont an at large for Rick Byrd Do the same for Doug Elgin. He's done so much for the game he deserves to go out as the commissioner of a multibid league.

[VUGrad1314]

Xavier and UCLA both lost today. I wonder if maybe Drake is going to have a cushion should they need it. I wonder what they'll say about the position of the MVC with respect to being a multibid league come tomorrow when all of today's results process. Drake could get a decent jump in the NET thanks to that Q2 win they notched today. A close loss might just be enough. But maybe it is better if they win and leave no doubt. I hope the MVC can get two bids.

[JD24]

Some 'ologists have Drake in. Some out. All bubbl-ish. So St. John's winning the Big East tournament or Duke doing the same in the ACC or something like that really can screw things up.

[valpotx]

We should be rooting for Drake.  This will guarantee a multi-bid conference this season.  Who would have thought such a thing would come up in the MVC again?  I remember several posters talking about how the days of getting multiple bids in the MVC were long gone, and we should have stayed in the HL...almost every sport will have multiple bids in the MVC