Recruiting: 2023

[VU2014]

Isaiah Stafford #24 G John A. Logan GP 35 PTS/G 12.5 FG % 50.6 3PT % 45.7 FT % 73.5 REB/G 4.0 • 45.7% is better than anyone in the MVC this year. • Valpo's best 3-pt shooters: Barrett 26th Nelson 35th

Probably drops at least 10% at the D1 level, but 35% is better than 25%

I'm trying to understand your point. I completely get the falloff from high school to college. The 3-point arc is a foot farther out, opposing players are faster, stronger and more physical, there are fewer uncontested 3's, players need to work off of picks and screens to get open, quicker release times are paramount, etc. Other than possibly more defensive intensity at D-1 than JC (if that's even true), I can't think of any other significant differences. The premier JC programs are well coached in every aspect of the game. Unlike generally less athletic D-2/D-3/NAIA players, generally JC players have D-1-level athleticism, speed, and physicality. I'm not trying to understate the difference, but it shouldn't be overstated either. What am I missing?

I think 10% is probably too high of a difference but there is a difference. There were 40 Div I players who had a 3pt shooting pct of 40% or higher. Three times that many at NJCAA but the cluster was closer to 40%. Those at or around the 40th player at the NJCAA level were at about 43%. So I'd expect that it's possible that Stafford could still be in the area of 40% for Valpo and, of course, that all depends on his usage. Scary thing is he wasn't the best shooter on the team.

JD24, great point. Thank you for looking up the stats.

[valpotx]

We need to land Sepp, in order to round out the Baltics in our historical roster

[historyman]

We need to land Sepp, in order to round out the Baltics in our historical roster

Just to satisfy valpotx's desires for a Baltic complete historical roster it is likely one of these guys is in the transfer portal

Players from Estonia Currently In The NCAA
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Player   Pos   HT   WT   Birth Date   Team   GP   MPG   PPG   RPG   APG   SPB   BPG
Markus Ilver   F   6-8   219   Jan 30, 2002   Wisconsin   18   6.56   1.61   0.94   0.17   0.06   0.00
Carlos Jurgens   PG   6-4   200   Oct 27, 1998   Oral Roberts   35   25.43   8.97   4.06   2.29   0.80   0.34
Johannes Kirsipuu   G   6-2   186   Feb 4, 2002   Central Arkansas   29   14.76   5.07   1.31   1.62   0.55   0.10
Kerr Kriisa   PG   6-3   180   Jan 2, 2001   Arizona   35   31.06   9.91   2.37   5.14   0.57   0.03
Andree Loigu   G   6-0   -   Jul 25, 2001   Northwest College (WY)   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
Marten Maide   SG   6-5   200   Aug 9, 2000   Fresno Pacific   25   20.44   6.16   2.60   0.72   0.44   0.12
George Piil   F   6-6   190   -   Our Lady of the Lake   6   7.33   2.17   1.83   0.33   0.00   0.00
Hannes Saar   SG   6-6   200   Oct 10, 2001   Barton CC   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
Henri Veesaar   FC   6-10   200   Mar 28, 2004   Arizona   28   7.29   2.50   1.54   0.54   0.14   0.43




Although I'm not sure Valpo should take another player from UW-Madison.

[wh]

Isaiah Stafford #24 G John A. Logan GP 35 PTS/G 12.5 FG % 50.6 3PT % 45.7 FT % 73.5 REB/G 4.0 • 45.7% is better than anyone in the MVC this year. • Valpo's best 3-pt shooters: Barrett 26th Nelson 35th

Probably drops at least 10% at the D1 level, but 35% is better than 25%

I'm trying to understand your point. I completely get the falloff from high school to college. The 3-point arc is a foot farther out, opposing players are faster, stronger and more physical, there are fewer uncontested 3's, players need to work off of picks and screens to get open, quicker release times are paramount, etc. Other than possibly more defensive intensity at D-1 than JC (if that's even true), I can't think of any other significant differences. The premier JC programs are well coached in every aspect of the game. Unlike generally less athletic D-2/D-3/NAIA players, generally JC players have D-1-level athleticism, speed, and physicality. I'm not trying to understate the difference, but it shouldn't be overstated either. What am I missing?

I think 10% is probably too high of a difference but there is a difference. There were 40 Div I players who had a 3pt shooting pct of 40% or higher. Three times that many at NJCAA but the cluster was closer to 40%. Those at or around the 40th player at the NJCAA level were at about 43%. So I'd expect that it's possible that Stafford could still be in the area of 40% for Valpo and, of course, that all depends on his usage. Scary thing is he wasn't the best shooter on the team.

JD24, great point. Thank you for looking up the stats.

So, 5 of 156 MVC scholarship players, only 3%, shot 40% or greater this past season. Truly rarified air. BTW, 3 of the 5 were from Belmont, and all 3 were double-digit scorers. That's impressive.

[FWalum]

Guessing you did not see my post 2 pages earlier about Stafford and his shooting %.

FRESHMAN YEAR: University of Southern Indiana scored a season-high 31 points versus Lindenwood University, the 31 points was a Screaming Eagles Arena record. https://usiscreamingeagles.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/isaiah-stafford/7040
HIGH SCHOOL: Lettered in basketball at Crispus Attucks High School (Indianapolis, Indiana) and Bolingbrook High School (Bolingbrook, Illinois)...was the Indianapolis City Player of the Year after posting 18.4 points, 4.5 assists, and 4.2 rebounds per contest in 2020-21 at Crispus Attucks...shot 51 percent from the field and 81 percent from the free-throw line in 2020-21...played his first three high school seasons at Bolingbrook, prior to COVID-19...was named Academic All-State twice during his prep career at BHS.


If I had to guess why he transferred from USI, it was because of very strange and inconsistent playing time. He only shot the 3 at a 32% clip at USI. His almost 46% 3 point percentage at John A. Logan is crazy. Shot 32-54 from 3 during conference play, that is 51.5%!! Seems really strange that he would improve that much. Hope he can shoot it closer to that 46% at VU.

If he can shoot in the upper 30's that would be my expectation. I hope he proves me wrong and continues to shoot in the 40's.

[JD24]

I think there's a better argument for the individual player bouncing back/returning to norm over a really poor/really good year shooting the ball than there is a defined dropoff or improvement going from one level to the next.

Stafford's USI year could have just been a really crappy year shooting the ball or it could be that he was just feeling it all year long for John Logan.

[justducky]

Stafford's USI year could have just been a really crappy year shooting the ball or it could be that he was just feeling it all year long for John Logan.

I will be disappointed if he shoots 30%, content if he shoots 35, happy if he shoots 40 and ecstatic if he shoots 45. I think that covers most of the bases. 

[historyman]

it could be that he was just feeling it all year long for John Logan.

They are known as the Vowels so it truly is John A. Logan College.  :-)









John Alexander Logan



John A. Logan College district citizens approved the creation of the Junior College district in September, 1967. The College is named in honor of John Alexander Logan, a prominent southern Illinoisan whose political career led from county clerk to U.S. Congressman.[/i][/font]
Civil War general who commanded troops at Vicksburg & the namesake of Logan Square in Chicago.
[/color]Logan Square is named for [/size]General John A. Logan[/size], an American soldier and political leader.
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[IndyValpo]

We sit at 9 scholarships after today. I would think one more then perhaps look at grad transfers to preserve next year's class.

[vok22]

If the previous two "boom" postings from Garrison were McNair and Manyang, the one he posted 45 minutes ago must be a new recruit. Things are heating up fast. Hoping to see a grad transfer or two

[crusader05]

Definitely seems like things are coming together.

[crusader05]

https://twitter.com/TVBOren/status/1659292772375883813


Per Paul: We have another Commit. A Freshman. Does that leave 2 or 3 scholarships left?

[tiny707]

05, I think we technically have three scholarships left but we have to save one for Justus McNair for next year so two left?

[crusader05]

I think we could have 3 left if at least one is filled with a grad transfer to ensure we have at least one for him but you'd think they'd like more than one incoming freshman next year so I'd assume at least 2 of the next 3 are grad transfers if not all 3 to ensure some balance

[valpo64]

Can anyone give Cooper Schwieger's background, home, size, weight, position, school, previous commits if any, etc.?

[vufan75]

Can anyone give Cooper Schwieger's background, home, size, weight, position, school, previous commits if any, etc.?

From Kansas City, KS. 6-10 from my memory?

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[VUGrad1314]

It's getting really hard not to be super optimistic about this upcoming season. This list of commits is exciting! I think we're going to really surprise some people in the MVC!

[vok22]

It's getting really hard not to be super optimistic about this upcoming season. This list of commits is exciting! I think we're going to really surprise some people in the MVC!

Not saying you're wrong, but who in particular are you excited for? I am having a hard time finding a ton of information on a lot of the newcomers so far.

[elephtheria47]

At some point you need bodies to field a team, but, I dont think we are quite at that point yet. Even tho info is limited, I am hoping and believing that we are getting them because we actually want them and believe they are beneficial. I trust Powell and the staff's judgments. Let the good times roll!

[Just Sayin]

Too many freshman so far. Rag tag, never played together. Curb your enthusiasm until we get some players from the portal with experience and minutes playing division 1 basketball.  Feels like the Wild West at this point. Yeehaw!
Ride 'em cowboy. One advantage of the portal is getting experienced division 1 players and not having just unbridled raw talent to have to slowly ready for play. Our experience transferred out. We need some experienced transfers in.

[AB]

Obviously reserve judgment until the roster is completely filled. I could see a scenario like Schertz at ISU. Bring in your system that looks like it clearly works, but a year or two away from taking foothold. More entertaining style of play, some higher scoring games, a few blow out losses but overall you could see the potential. Look at ISU from year one to two. As good as our coaching staff appears to be in the recruiting circles, they did get a "later" start. JFL, Frazekas, Kiser were just that good and the only team under Lottich that managed to make the mismatched pieces work. Like someone else said. Get the players that fit Powell's system.

[wh]

Remember this? Do you guys think Chairback made this up? I don't.

This will be interesting where he ends up academically.

June is going to be a really good month.  It's going to get really really good.   

[vu72]

Can anyone give Cooper Schwieger's background, home, size, weight, position, school, previous commits if any, etc.?

6'8 - @CarsonSchwieger -Overland Park, KS-- Stretch 4, High Motor. 42% from 3. Tough and willing rebounder. Skilled in the post. High level work ethic and high character!

[valpopal]

Can anyone give Cooper Schwieger's background, home, size, weight, position, school, previous commits if any, etc.?

6'8 - @CarsonSchwieger -Overland Park, KS-- Stretch 4, High Motor. 42% from 3. Tough and willing rebounder. Skilled in the post. High level work ethic and high character!

Wrong Schwieger, 72. Carson is Cooper's slightly shorter twin brother.

[valpo64]

AB were you referring to I think his name is Sturtz from maybe Drake?    I believe he was a walk-on who really panned out.