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David81

Quote from: Just Sayin on April 21, 2023, 01:55:37 PM
https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1649457235431665664?s=46&t=uQUoLf5AwXnu_4U6WjN3bw

I have no idea what kind of talent is left in the portal. I have no business suggesting how to recruit for the coming season. 🤣 But I'll weigh in anyway as a fan and say that if the remaining talent with the right fit for VU is sparse, then fill out the roster as best you can while ensuring that at least 5-6 scholarship spots are open for '24-'25, when this coaching staff has a full recruiting season. Do not take chances on toxic talent. Then coach the he** out of the players you have in '23-'24 in an effort to find some diamonds in the rough and to put a team on the floor that never quits.


JD24

Quote from: Just Sayin on April 21, 2023, 01:55:37 PMhttps://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1649457235431665664?s=46&t=uQUoLf5AwXnu_4U6WjN3bw
Love Fran however I think he's "too soon" with this take. This was posted the same day Gonzaga announced the signing of 3 of the better transfers in the portal. We're unlikely at the end of the talent pool in the portal particularly for non elite programs.

historyman

Quote from: 4throwfan on April 21, 2023, 01:29:28 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 21, 2023, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 21, 2023, 10:27:43 AM
Gonzaga has just announced a terrific incoming transfer class of Steele Venters, Ryan Nembhard, and Graham Ike. Apparently, Powell was the lead recruiter of Ike. I am expecting Valpo to see some of the Rev's ability to attract talent on display very soon as well.
Forget past references about Valpo as "the Harvard of the Midwest," perhaps for recruiting purposes it is time to label VU under Powell as "the Gonzaga of the Midwest."

Respectfully, these types of references have always bothered me.  I'd rather Valpo be the best Valpo, rather than the second best [somebody else].

I think that if Valpo were to thrive, it may need to take on a disruptive culture, which would suggest not following the path of anyone else.


Yes, Let's have other schools start saying they are "the Valpo of (insert region)."
"We must stand aside from the world's conspiracy of fear and hate and grasp once more the great monosyllables of life: faith, hope, and love. Men must live by these if they live at all under the crushing weight of history." Otto Paul "John" Kretzmann

Just Sayin

Quote from: JD24 on April 22, 2023, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 21, 2023, 01:55:37 PMhttps://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1649457235431665664?s=46&t=uQUoLf5AwXnu_4U6WjN3bw
Love Fran however I think he's "too soon" with this take. This was posted the same day Gonzaga announced the signing of 3 of the better transfers in the portal. We're unlikely at the end of the talent pool in the portal particularly for non elite programs.

Fran: "Not to say that there aren't good players still left in portal."

Just Sayin

Quote from: historyman on April 22, 2023, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: 4throwfan on April 21, 2023, 01:29:28 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 21, 2023, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 21, 2023, 10:27:43 AM
Gonzaga has just announced a terrific incoming transfer class of Steele Venters, Ryan Nembhard, and Graham Ike. Apparently, Powell was the lead recruiter of Ike. I am expecting Valpo to see some of the Rev's ability to attract talent on display very soon as well.
Forget past references about Valpo as "the Harvard of the Midwest," perhaps for recruiting purposes it is time to label VU under Powell as "the Gonzaga of the Midwest."

Respectfully, these types of references have always bothered me.  I'd rather Valpo be the best Valpo, rather than the second best [somebody else].

I think that if Valpo were to thrive, it may need to take on a disruptive culture, which would suggest not following the path of anyone else.


Yes, Let's have other schools start saying they are "the Valpo of (insert region)."

ValpoZags


Just Sayin

Quote from: David81 on April 21, 2023, 10:44:30 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 21, 2023, 01:55:37 PM
https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1649457235431665664?s=46&t=uQUoLf5AwXnu_4U6WjN3bw

I have no idea what kind of talent is left in the portal. I have no business suggesting how to recruit for the coming season. 🤣 But I'll weigh in anyway as a fan and say that if the remaining talent with the right fit for VU is sparse, then fill out the roster as best you can while ensuring that at least 5-6 scholarship spots are open for '24-'25, when this coaching staff has a full recruiting season. Do not take chances on toxic talent. Then coach the he** out of the players you have in '23-'24 in an effort to find some diamonds in the rough and to put a team on the floor that never quits.

Here is a pretty good estimate of talent of those still in the portal. Not sure how often this is updated.

https://www.barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&xvalue=trans&year=2023&minmin=0&start=20221101&end=20230501

Just Sayin

#209
Another portal list updated today sorted by guards, wings, and post:

https://theresourcenexus.com/transfer-portal-basketball/

Another good one:

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire/basketball/2023/

tiny707

On Nexus report I like:
1.) #139 Jordan Davis from Wisconsin. I think same high school as Kobe in La Crosse.
2.) #143 Jacob Groves from Oklahoma. Hometown is Spokane, WA.
3.) #153 Hunter Sallis from Gonzaga. Hometown is Omaha.
4.) #172 Brandon Newman from Purdue. Hometown is Valpo.

JD24

Quote from: Just Sayin on April 22, 2023, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: JD24 on April 22, 2023, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 21, 2023, 01:55:37 PMhttps://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1649457235431665664?s=46&t=uQUoLf5AwXnu_4U6WjN3bw
Love Fran however I think he's "too soon" with this take. This was posted the same day Gonzaga announced the signing of 3 of the better transfers in the portal. We're unlikely at the end of the talent pool in the portal particularly for non elite programs.
Fran: "Not to say that there aren't good players still left in portal."
From that point of view he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Just Sayin

Quote from: JD24 on April 22, 2023, 04:25:48 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 22, 2023, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: JD24 on April 22, 2023, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 21, 2023, 01:55:37 PMhttps://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1649457235431665664?s=46&t=uQUoLf5AwXnu_4U6WjN3bw
Love Fran however I think he's "too soon" with this take. This was posted the same day Gonzaga announced the signing of 3 of the better transfers in the portal. We're unlikely at the end of the talent pool in the portal particularly for non elite programs.
Fran: "Not to say that there aren't good players still left in portal."
From that point of view he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Strange interpretation of his words. It's not either/or, both comments he made are true. There are still good players in the portal. And the window of opportunity is closing fast at this late date which can lead to bad decisions.

historyman

Quote from: Just Sayin on April 22, 2023, 01:20:46 PM
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Talking to Ned Beatty's character in Deliverance, "I sure do like your 'pretty' tables."
"We must stand aside from the world's conspiracy of fear and hate and grasp once more the great monosyllables of life: faith, hope, and love. Men must live by these if they live at all under the crushing weight of history." Otto Paul "John" Kretzmann

JD24

Quote from: Just Sayin on April 22, 2023, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: JD24 on April 22, 2023, 04:25:48 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 22, 2023, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: JD24 on April 22, 2023, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 21, 2023, 01:55:37 PMhttps://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1649457235431665664?s=46&t=uQUoLf5AwXnu_4U6WjN3bw
Love Fran however I think he's "too soon" with this take. This was posted the same day Gonzaga announced the signing of 3 of the better transfers in the portal. We're unlikely at the end of the talent pool in the portal particularly for non elite programs.
Fran: "Not to say that there aren't good players still left in portal."
From that point of view he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Strange interpretation of his words. It's not either/or, both comments he made are true. There are still good players in the portal. And the window of opportunity is closing fast at this late date which can lead to bad decisions.
It's the "late date" I disagreed with initially.....which is what I said initially.

tiny707

Wonder if Cam and Maximus will stay on team and not transfer?

JD24

Quote from: tiny707 on April 23, 2023, 08:08:08 AMWonder if Cam and Maximus will stay on team and not transfer?
Maybe not in year one but based on Powell's comments on style of play, guys on the roster better be able to defend the length of the court. I'm not sure that's in Max's game.

covufan

Quote from: Just Sayin on April 22, 2023, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: David81 on April 21, 2023, 10:44:30 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 21, 2023, 01:55:37 PM
https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1649457235431665664?s=46&t=uQUoLf5AwXnu_4U6WjN3bw

I have no idea what kind of talent is left in the portal. I have no business suggesting how to recruit for the coming season. [emoji1787] But I'll weigh in anyway as a fan and say that if the remaining talent with the right fit for VU is sparse, then fill out the roster as best you can while ensuring that at least 5-6 scholarship spots are open for '24-'25, when this coaching staff has a full recruiting season. Do not take chances on toxic talent. Then coach the he** out of the players you have in '23-'24 in an effort to find some diamonds in the rough and to put a team on the floor that never quits.

Here is a pretty good estimate of talent of those still in the portal. Not sure how often this is updated.

https://www.barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&xvalue=trans&year=2023&minmin=0&start=20221101&end=20230501
Considering we only had two players above 1.0 (Krikke, King) there are many possibilities to recruit here.


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vok22

#218
According to Twitter, Valpo is hosting western Michigan transfer Ola Ajiboye today. Freshman who averaged 3 ppg. Needless to say, the he few names that I have seen connected to Valpo are NOT the caliber I was expecting us to be after. So far mostly JUCO or low D1 players that struggled...

Meanwhile, UIC is bringing in transfers like Marquise Kennedy

wh

Plays fast, athletic, big leaper, reestablishes the Bosco connection. Get him here. Roger will do the rest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMuKMywN0iQ

VU2014

I'm wondering if enter Marquise Kennedy's recruitment late in the process.

Matt Gordon is his old Coach and would be familiar with him. Maybe that opens the door for Valpo to have a shot

valpo64

I would classify Marquis Kennedy as a has-been.  He was not that effective in his last year at Loyola as I remember.

VU2014

Quote from: valpo64 on April 24, 2023, 11:41:16 AM
I would classify Marquis Kennedy as a has-been.  He was not that effective in his last year at Loyola as I remember.

He just committed to UIC

https://twitter.com/nickschultz_7/status/1650527389171023872?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw

tiny707

I agree with WH. Re-establishes the Bosco Institute connection. Roger will make him better. We have seven slots to fill. Probably an upgrade from Emil and Joe. His coach at Von Steuben High School likes Roger. I think his brother plays for Dee Brown at Roosevelt. Nice to get a Chicago kid with upside.