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 Rez
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I assumed the current staff changes were as a means to collect data. However Beacon92 did mention a path of requesting for the full season being available but not being marketed.   However seeing as you did ask about the retiree changes, it is mind boggling that these benefits would be taken away. I assume the retiree contingent is going to raise a few hands about this. This being said, I still find it hard to believe that this change was to fund the arena project. Being honest, this sounds like an attempt to pay players not unlike what Tennessee has done with their 10% upcharge on tickets. SO instead of "Building an Arena of the Backs of Retirees" I think a better talking point would be "Paying Athletes off the backs of Retirees"

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Posted : 09/18/2024 7:48 PM
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Posted by: @rezynezy

I assumed the current staff changes were as a means to collect data. However Beacon92 did mention a path of requesting for the full season being available but not being marketed.   However seeing as you did ask about the retiree changes, it is mind boggling that these benefits would be taken away. I assume the retiree contingent is going to raise a few hands about this. This being said, I still find it hard to believe that this change was to fund the arena project. Being honest, this sounds like an attempt to pay players not unlike what Tennessee has done with their 10% upcharge on tickets. SO instead of "Building an Arena of the Backs of Retirees" I think a better talking point would be "Paying Athletes off the backs of Retirees"

As I set up this topic, my concern was less about how the money was being used; rather, it was about the "pettiness" of the move.  Actually, I see it more as another sign of contempt for people who dedicated their lives to the success of the university. If the athletic department would like its athletes to be loyal to VU, perhaps the university should model loyalty to the elders of the university community.

 

 
Posted : 09/19/2024 4:52 AM
 MJ08
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Posted by: @valpopal

Took your advice and got word straight from the top. The petty withdrawal of the benefit to retirees was done simply as an attempt to make more money, as was suggested by some here. The change for faculty and staff to an email process with submission at least 48 hours in advance was done through the new ticket platform primarily as a means to harvest data from those folks, though it also has the result of now charging these people a premium of full cost for same day walk-in admission. 

This is somehow worse than I thought. Another example of financialization without thinking of the bigger picture. Which consultant floated this idea? 

Have they realized that a lot of the crowds at basketball games are…older people? That demographic has been supporting this program through good times and bad, and this is how Valpo repays them? Do we now want less people at our games? 

 
Posted : 09/19/2024 6:49 AM
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Looking back at this thread, it is seriously stupid to change prices for retirees or make it harder for faculty/staff to attend. Make it easy (or keep it easy)...get people interested and attending. The financial gain from doing otherwise can't be much, but might even be negative (decline in concessions). 

 
Posted : 09/19/2024 7:50 AM
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I never used or was really aware of the employee discounts, so I'm not personally too outraged about this.

But yeah, for sure, it seems counter-productive if the goal is to increase attendance and campus support/morale through sports.

Unfortunately, data analytics and e-financialization are leading to the en-shittification of many sectors of society.

 
Posted : 09/19/2024 1:05 PM
 jd24
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The only thing wrong I see is making it a bit complicated. If there's a discount, it should apply to at any point and there should be no requirement to obtain tickets passes by a certain point in time. The time issue would turn me off more than almost any price or discount the school would provide.

Students aside, the rest of the complaints have an element of entitlement which I'm not sure should be there.

 
Posted : 09/21/2024 10:19 AM
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Posted by: @humbleopinion

Instead of free admission to all sports (a perk for years of commitment to the university), retirees will now be given up to four tickets to a single game for one sport this year. I would guess that this will mean that fewer retirees will show up for games of the minor (poorly attended) sports and will result in only a slight increase in revenue.

It sure seems like a petty move and will serve to alienate a group that has dedicated its professional lives to making Valpo a successful university.

 

This week the Faculty Senate is scheduled to consider a resolution calling the university to reinstate the old ticket policy of free admission to all athletic events for retirees. It would be a good public relations move if the administration heeded the resolution before basketball season begins.

 

 
Posted : 10/14/2024 10:54 AM
 Rez
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The only hinderance I see about reinstating it seems to be the new ticketing platform. Operating under the assumption that retirees still have a faculty ID number that is not used by current faculty. Why not make a special discount code directly in the new app where staff can submit their ID numbers to access benefits. Still scratches that data itch that the ticketing company wants while providing benefits to the staff.

 

Hopefully they rectify this issue. Season tickets are selling well and the ARC needs as many butts in seats as it can get.

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Posted : 10/14/2024 2:13 PM
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Posted by: @mj08

Attendance at basketball games has already fallen off a cliff. Are we trying to play in an empty building? Valpo should be doing everything to fill the ARC, not setting up bureaucratic processes to obtain tickets. 

 

Just win, baby. 

 

 
Posted : 11/02/2024 8:11 PM
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