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 vu72
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Posted by: @vu72

Posted by: @whvalpo

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@whvalpo — Nails in which coffin?

There are some who seem gleefully hoping for Valpo to close.  Why they are on this board remains a mystery.  Our country is in deep trouble with the trade war starting tomorrow.

An insulting, full-of-crap reply. As the father of a VU law school graduate, local businessman, faithful financial donor, and bb season ticket holder for decades, I defy anyone to say they’re more committed to Valpo’s survival than I. That said, I’m more than a little frustrated that Valpo has once again gambled its entire future on a pipe dream of chasing a controversial student population that was wiped away with a stroke of a pen from a new presidential administration. Apparently, the university learned nothing from its failed project 6000 pipe dream to chase a foreign student cash cow propagated by Communist China and radical Muslim nations in the Middle East, which, as now, was turned into ashes by the strike of a pen from a new administration. As to what’s going to happen tomorrow,” follow the rules and keep your ignorant, butt hurt political nonsense to yourself. 

 

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Well, at least he took it well!  And as for political nonsense, try rereading what you wrote! We all need to stop bashing the administration and offer positive solutions rather than complaining about decisions made decades ago.

 

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Posted : 01/31/2025 6:08 PM
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Decades ago? More like recent.

 
Posted : 01/31/2025 8:38 PM
 vu72
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Posted by: @vu72

Apparently, the university learned nothing from its failed project 6000

Posted by: @usc4valpo

Decades ago? More like recent.

Ok, maybe not "decades", how about over a decade. Here is the story about the new Welcome Center whose purpose in part was to help grow the student body to 6000. The story is from 2012.

https://www.valpo.edu/stories/2012/04/30/duesenbergs-make-5-million-gift-to-help-fund-welcome-center/

 

 

 
Posted : 02/02/2025 2:56 PM
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Not sure the major intent of the welcome was to drive the student population to 6000. I think there was a donor who forked the cash to specifically build that.

Heckler was a bad president. But going to the past misses will not get Valpo to a prosperous level. 

 
Posted : 02/02/2025 4:00 PM
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From that article 

"The Duesenberg Welcome Center will play a central role in the University’s efforts to grow to 6,000 students as part of the University’s Strategic Plan. The center will help foster a greater sense of community for visitors on campus."

 
Posted : 02/02/2025 5:34 PM
 vu72
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Posted by: @usc4valpo

Not sure the major intent of the welcome was to drive the student population to 6000. I think there was a donor who forked the cash to specifically build that.

Heckler was a bad president. But going to the past misses will not get Valpo to a prosperous level. 

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my point exactly! Let’s focus on the positives! Lots of great things also happening at Valpo!

 

 
Posted : 02/02/2025 7:22 PM
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Ok, the push for 6000 students started in the decade + time range. My bad on that one. The center is very nice, as my daughter and I went there as we did a campus tour. 

 
Posted : 02/02/2025 7:35 PM
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The Duesenberg $5million donation came in at around the same time as the chapel refurbish and expansion. Both brought cosmetic/architectural improvements to the campus. However, lurking in the background was the neglected dorms and a poorly facilitated nursing and health sciences program (one of Valpo’s cash cows). IMO, Both the chapel and welcome center were kind of a net zero in solidly attracting applicants who were looking for a more tangible ROI on their tuition investment.

Make no mistake, I do not disparage the well meaning  donors who gave their money where they thought it would benefit the university - and it obviously did - it was after all, their money. Just wish we could find similar donors for the health sciences and dorm renovation. And, oh yeah, a new arena some time down the line. 🙄

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Posted : 02/02/2025 8:25 PM
 Rez
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In my eyes. It seems like the newest corporate sponsor is a means to bolster the health science and the athletic departments. Although i do not know what they are giving VU in terms of financial gains.

 
Posted : 02/02/2025 10:26 PM
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Fascinating.  Before the Welcome Center $5M, it appears the Duesenbergs invested millions ($10 million additional?) to embed the legacy purposes and studies of the Kretzman era and founding mission. They created faculty "Chairs" in theology, music, ethics (philosophy.)  They gave major art works to the Brauer museum and funded the Kade House building for German language immersion. Those six topics align almost perfectly with the cutback majors proposed by VU in the last two years. 

If those donors are still living, I wonder if they want to sue to reclaim the money?  At a minimum VU has signaled that they don't value the Kretzmann era alumni.    

 
Posted : 02/03/2025 11:25 AM
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Posted by: @realist77

Fascinating.  Before the Welcome Center $5M, it appears the Duesenbergs invested millions ($10 million additional?) to embed the legacy purposes and studies of the Kretzman era and founding mission. They created faculty "Chairs" in theology, music, ethics (philosophy.)  They gave major art works to the Brauer museum and funded the Kade House building for German language immersion. Those six topics align almost perfectly with the cutback majors proposed by VU in the last two years. 

If those donors are still living, I wonder if they want to sue to reclaim the money?  At a minimum VU has signaled that they don't value the Kretzmann era alumni.    

Those days might be over soon. 

 

 
Posted : 02/03/2025 1:59 PM
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The last graduates under O.P. were 1968.  They were born in 1946, perfectly handing off to the Boomers. But the youngest OPK group is 78. The crucial next five years would do well to heed their OPK themed loyalties and the oldest boomers' loyalties. 

 
Posted : 02/03/2025 2:56 PM
 Rez
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Posted by: @realist77

The last graduates under O.P. were 1968.  They were born in 1946, perfectly handing off to the Boomers. But the youngest OPK group is 78. The crucial next five years would do well to heed their OPK themed loyalties and the oldest boomers' loyalties. 

 

Sorry. That's not gonna work with my generation. I've outlined why multiple times here. The kids who are actually going to be college age and spending money at the institution do not align themselves with the ideals of Boomers and OPK era loyalties. Once again. The younger generation BIL do not  see value in religions affiliations, theology, or the music associated with these sectors. Buying into these values completely would be trying to find needles among haystacks as to potential enrollees. The mindset of a college student 57 years ago is exponentially different than the mindset of a college student today. To ask modern students to "sit down and accept these values" of people who were in college well over 30 years ago is ridiculious.

 

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Posted : 02/03/2025 6:30 PM
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@rezynezy  That is ignorant and incredibly insulting.

Our generation (yes, I graduated in ‘66) has watched our kids and grandkids move through multiple education cycles. And cheered them at every step.  We’ve seen the evolution of higher education and understood it as necessary and important to adjust to change. The “OPK generation” does not want to reestablish the 60’s ( though those were great times to grow up). It wants to support institutions that practice solid business decisions in higher education, adjusts to the changing world, coupled with a sense of a firm identity that differentiates Valpo from vanilla institutions with bland, if any, values.

Yeah, today’s students at Notre Dame, Boston College, Gonzaga, GCU, Liberty. Presbyterian, Marist, St. Mary’s, Creighton, Iona, Loyola (all of them), TCU, SMU, Baylor, Indiana Wesleyan, ORU, University of St. Thomas, Wake Forest, Villanova, …….and the list goes on and on, certainly reject religious values, theology and music (WTF?)  Yeah, right.  

Wake up. Today’s kids are desperately searching  for those few islands where they can explore themselves, their world, the outside world, and feel free to share thoughts and ideas in a nonjudgmental environment while learning how to think independently.  Institutions like Valpo provide that place - and part of that is the faith-based values that permeate a campus like Valpo. 

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Posted : 02/03/2025 7:21 PM
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 vu72
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62 is, as always, right on! The idea the faith at Valpo means nothing to students is simply not true. Granted, students aren’t flocking to the chapel on Sunday mornings, but there is an active student presents at Wednesday night and Sunday evening services. Many athletes chose Valpo because it is faith based. Roger Powell is at Valpo for the same reason, as are many coaches including Coach Waddell. 
As for music, that is truly laughable. The Lutheran Summer Music program draws high school musicians (hundreds from all over the country ) to Valpo for an entire month each summer. Many end up at Valpo and other Lutheran colleges. 

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Posted : 02/03/2025 8:06 PM
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