I get what you are saying and the overall view. Technically, that was not a dead ball, as I don't believe that they whistled anything until he threw it off the guy. That was technically his inbounds "pass" after the dunk, which then caused a whistle
LOL! Yeah...um...ok.
Are you an attorney by any chance?
It wasn't a dead ball, that part is factual.
Nope, but my wife is an Attorney, so I am used to challenging and being challenged in my assertions. This is all just a general question, dude, as I have stated before, I get that the intent makes this different and a technical foul situation. However, I am very curious if this type of act is an automatic technical foul in all situations. We know that it is not in the previously mentioned scenarios. If a guy is 10-15 feet away and the 5 second rule is coming up, can you still peg that dude to try and get the ball back? It seems like a subjective rule to call a technical, to be honest.
I always look forward to Jomboy's take:
I do like Jomboy's take on these types of things. Another general question, but if the guy that got drilled ends up catching that ball somehow, I assume that it is still a technical foul with the intent?
I do like Jomboy's take on these types of things. Another general question, but if the guy that got drilled ends up catching that ball somehow, I assume that it is still a technical foul with the intent?
My exasperation with this caper lies in the fact that there could be no reasonable basketball fan, official, player, cheerleader, security member, who would not have seen the intent on that play. Yes....to answer your question.
@valpotx As an IHSAA official for basketball, yes. He clearly did not want to inbound a pass to his teammate. His only intent was to play dodgeball
Basically, the committee said if you ain't a major, you aren't worth our time. YES, 5 teams stole bids, but you only took them away from the Mids. What they did to the MWC should not happen. This is just embarrassing to college basketball fans.
What did they do to the MWC? They got 6 teams in, while the Big East only got 3.
What did they do to the MWC? They got 6 teams in, while the Big East only got 3.
With the PAC-12 being gone, someone needed to come and ascend to the level of Power Conference. The MWC seemed to be the best choice. The MW teams I saw in deserved to be in for the most part. The team I am most upset got in was Virginia out of the ACC. Expect them to be first round exits.
What did they do to the MWC? They got 6 teams in, while the Big East only got 3.
I think it was a mistype by Talksalot and it was supposed to be MVC instead of MWC.
Would someone tell me what we’re doing in this stupid league? We went from king of the hill in the HL to a standing joke in another 1 bid league. A 1-bid league with 12 mouths to feed, no less, in an era when D-1 majors will continue taking more and more at-large bids. In the meantime Oakland fans are going crazy after a Cinderella win over Kentucky. Bottom line - Valpo made a fatal mistake. The program is trying to rise from the ashes resulting from that mistake just to hopefully be semi-competitive. I would love to hear from anyone who thinks that this move was, is, or ever will be anything but a fatal mistake. We are college basketball’s best example of the Peter Principle on steroids.
@whvalpo I think Valpo just had a "worst case scenario". Drew left in 16 and Valpo had probably already agreed to join the valley before his resignation came to light. Going from a low major to a mid major is a bit of a jump. The valley is just a more competative league than the HL and Valpo probably expected Drew to stay on for the transition. We wanted Powell to stay, but he took a job elsewhere . Which left Lottich, and Lottich left much to be desired. 2020 we actually had a decent roster put togethr, then Covid hit. Its just been a domino effect. Powell can right the ship, but he has to repair the holes in the galley
EDIT: Forgot to mention, but I think at this point we can all agree that the valley got snubbed by the committee. ISU dropped 100pts last night, and the teams they got beat out by for March madness fell flat on their faces. Col St and Virginia did not deserve bids.
If 2 teams from the Valley deserve to be in the field, then prove it on the court. Drake for 2 straight years has not met the challenge. You have to put up.
I am happy for Oakland and Coach Kampe, who used to take a lot humorous grief from Valpo fans. What an outstanding performance. Well deserved.
Drake losing a close game to Washington State is not a problem. Washington State is a good team (finished ranked #25 in the AP poll, and second place in the Pac-12 - one game behind Arizona). If Drake hits a few more free throws, they probably win the game. If Drake and Washington State played ten times, they would probably have a pretty even split.
The NCAA selection committee did not need to take Mississippi State (8-10 in SEC) nor 6 teams from the Mountain West and leave out Indiana State.
Would someone tell me what we’re doing in this stupid league? We went from king of the hill in the HL to a standing joke in another 1 bid league. A 1-bid league with 12 mouths to feed, no less, in an era when D-1 majors will continue taking more and more at-large bids. In the meantime Oakland fans are going crazy after a Cinderella win over Kentucky. Bottom line - Valpo made a fatal mistake. The program is trying to rise from the ashes resulting from that mistake just to hopefully be semi-competitive. I would love to hear from anyone who thinks that this move was, is, or ever will be anything but a fatal mistake. We are college basketball’s best example of the Peter Principle on steroids.
The change in league is not what killed us. When we were in the Horizon League we were competing with the best of the best from other mid major conferences, including the MVC. We routinely beat MVC teams in the non-con and were always ranked near the top of the "Mid Major" Top 25. It's not as if we had teams with similar skill levels as we do now and were just making the tournament because we were in a weaker league. In fact, I want to say we have a losing record against Horizon League teams (including UIC before they left the Horizon) since we joined the MVC. If we would have stayed in the Horizon after Bryce left, Lottich still would have been hired and we would've simply sucked in a bad league instead of sucking in a good league. That was Valpo's one opportunity to move up in the world of CBB, they needed to take it.
The Horizon League is dying and we got out of it at the right time. Since we joined the MVC, we have had multiple multi-bid years, a final four, sweet sixteens, and have remained in the multi-bid conversation well after Loyola left. You would rather have us suck equally as much and trade this conference to relish in one Oakland tournament victory?
I will remind you, possibly the best team to ever suit up for Valpo didn't even make the tournament, and a lot of that was probably because we were playing in the Horizon League. If we had been in the MVC in 2015-16, we almost certainly get an at-large and win a game or two in the tournament. Indiana State just fell mercy to an unprecedented round of bid-steelers this year. Either way, the chances of an at-large in the MVC are EXPONENTIALLY higher than in the Horizon.
The problem is not that we changed conferences, the problem is that we made a bad hire at head coach that set us back. If and when we have a good team, you want to be in the MVC 100 times out of 100. You have a better SOS, more competitive games night in and night out, chance at an at-large (even if it isn't every year), and actual national exposure. And when we are good again and do make the tournament, we will actually get a chance to be a 10,11,12 seed with a chance at winning instead of a hope and a prayer of beating a 1,2,3 seed once every 40 years.
Consider us LUCKY that we are in the MVC. If we would have stayed in the Horizon and drifted towards the bottom of the pack under Lottich (we would have, his teams in the MVC lost to Horizon bottom feeders in the non-con, analytics would have placed us at best in the middle), our program would be on the fast track to D2. We would've drifted into the shadows, forgotten about by everybody but ourselves. That is a stark contrast from the MVC, where no matter how bad we are, if we fire our coach, we will have quality candidates to choose from to rebuild the program.
We simply lost the magic touch of the family that made basketball great a Valpo, and we have to find that again. Hopefully it comes in the form of Roger Powell.
