couple things
1. NIL in low 6 figures will not get any players that can win games
2.No one is going to donate to this insanity-without Homer or Bryce no one really cares about being a supporter -and those that were donating before are gone
3.Renovating the ARC is a pipe dream-that ship sailed long ago -if the Drew family couldn't get it done(and they tried) then no one else can
4.Valpo athletics is in its worst position in the history of the school.We know who put us in this position and unfortunately there is no way out of it.Lack of enrollment=poor attendance of games and the cycle continues.Heck the school will balk at spending 50k for the blueprints-and rightfully so
couple things
1. NIL in low 6 figures will not get any players that can win games
2.No one is going to donate to this insanity-without Homer or Bryce no one really cares about being a supporter -and those that were donating before are gone
3.Renovating the ARC is a pipe dream-that ship sailed long ago -if the Drew family couldn't get it done(and they tried) then no one else can
4.Valpo athletics is in its worst position in the history of the school.We know who put us in this position and unfortunately there is no way out of it.Lack of enrollment=poor attendance of games and the cycle continues.Heck the school will balk at spending 50k for the blueprints-and rightfully so
From what I gathered, REV foundation is designed for both Valpo fans and the community to get involved. Outside parties aren't going to donate to an NIL collective, but they could be swayed to take part in a nonprofit centered around community development and youth engagement. It just so happens that that non profit has a component of basketball NIL baked into it. How successful this will be is yet to be seen.
Something happening in Indiana right now. A lot of parallels between this and the state of college basketball. Basically, police departments were poaching talent from other departments soon after the initial department spent all the money to train them.
The law, which passed 90-1 in the house and 49-0 in the senate, requires the new department to repay the original agency for training expenses, supplies, "as well as the first year of the officer’s base salary and benefits. The new employer, or a police officer who quits the force, would be liable for 100% of those costs in the first year after the officer completes basic training, 66% between one and two years after basic training and 33% between two and three years after basic training." After three years the cost would go to zero.
Why is this not in the works for college basketball? Something like this would be the perfect solution. Players should be able to move up if they want to, but the original school should be compensated for the work they put in to not only find under recruited talent, but then develop them into something worth poaching. That money can then go into their own NIL pool and be used to retain future talent or get higher quality talent in the portal as replacement. Who knows, if we had to be paid 100k for having Cooper poached, we would likely be able to keep All around another year.
Also, the regressive nature of it would probably be enough to keep most standout underclassmen from transferring until their Junior or Senior year, and then cashing in.
I have hope that eventually something like this will be put in place, but not any time soon. I have heard exactly zero news about actual attempts by the NCAA to get this under control.
Players should be able to move up if they want to, but the original school should be compensated for the work they put in to not only find under recruited talent, but then develop them into something worth poaching. That money can then go into their own NIL pool and be used to retain future talent or get higher quality talent in the portal as replacement.
On a related note, after sitting out a year, getting a scholarship (I assume with funding for tuition, room, board, books, etc.)—plus care and physical therapy, and training—and occupying a spot on the roster for a season as a redshirt, Isaiah Stafford is walking away. Something similar but on a larger scale, especially concerning NIL, just happened at West Virginia involving Tucker Devries. Why don't the NCAA and university academic programs institute rules for redshirts modeled on sabbatical leaves for faculty. A professor who has a sabbatical is required to return for teaching at the university for at least one additional year immediately afterwards, otherwise the salary received during the sabbatical period must be refunded to the university. This seems simple enough.
couple things
1. NIL in low 6 figures will not get any players that can win games
2.No one is going to donate to this insanity-without Homer or Bryce no one really cares about being a supporter -and those that were donating before are gone
3.Renovating the ARC is a pipe dream-that ship sailed long ago -if the Drew family couldn't get it done(and they tried) then no one else can
4.Valpo athletics is in its worst position in the history of the school.We know who put us in this position and unfortunately there is no way out of it.Lack of enrollment=poor attendance of games and the cycle continues.Heck the school will balk at spending 50k for the blueprints-and rightfully so
who put VU is this worst state of athletics?
I watched other conferences tournament games on ESPN + a few weeks ago and let me tell you, the ARC doesn’t look half bad compared to some other D1 programs. Sure, it would be nice to have a better facility. But the university has bigger priorities to focus on right now.
I get the feeling that, right now, alumni are very disengaged from Valpo. For a lot of reasons. That could change once the new president is announced. For better or for worse. As others have mentioned, it needs to be home run hire in order to get the school back on track.
Players should be able to move up if they want to, but the original school should be compensated for the work they put in to not only find under recruited talent, but then develop them into something worth poaching. That money can then go into their own NIL pool and be used to retain future talent or get higher quality talent in the portal as replacement.
On a related note, after sitting out a year, getting a scholarship (I assume with funding for tuition, room, board, books, etc.)—plus care and physical therapy, and training—and occupying a spot on the roster for a season as a redshirt, Isaiah Stafford is walking away. Something similar but on a larger scale, especially concerning NIL, just happened at West Virginia involving Tucker Devries. Why don't the NCAA and university academic programs institute rules for redshirts modeled on sabbatical leaves for faculty. A professor who has a sabbatical is required to return for teaching at the university for at least one additional year immediately afterwards, otherwise the salary received during the sabbatical period must be refunded to the university. This seems simple enough.
The motivation for the NCAA to do this and fend off any legal challenges would be what?
The Stanford thing is really bad as he flat out took advantage of Valpo. Roger should have had an understanding with him or cut him lose last year. Then see who is going to pick him and his medical bills up without any idea if he would/could return to form—he shot 29 percent from the three.
As for the “end of the world” guys “Valpo has never been worse” stuff, that is just silly.We now have an AD who knows how to hire. Roger is a great hire, watch her hire an experienced “head” coach for women’s basketball just like she did for football and softball, Valpo athletics are on the rise.
We all understand the financial challenges at the university and the athletic program. Roger Powell may or may not have success turning things around, but he's putting forth an effort and trying to accomplish some things. He's got a plan, he's not sitting around complaining or walking away from the job. Somebody has to do something. All it takes is a few powerful allies, donors etc..
In order to change the whole college basketball NIL landscape it will take coach K, Boeheim, other coaches with clout to come together with some type of proposal, get some media attention. Until then it will be the Wild West and the mid majors will be squeezed out for good
I guess Roger Powell could come forward with a law suit like the West Virginia governor over loosing Cooper. Hah
The Stanford thing is really bad as he flat out took advantage of Valpo. Roger should have had an understanding with him or cut him lose last year. Then see who is going to pick him and his medical bills up without any idea if he would/could return to form—he shot 29 percent from the three.
As far as his medical situation is concerned, I've wondered what the requirements of a program is to see a player through rehab. I'm not sure if it is possible to essentially walk away from a player who is injured.
The motivation for the NCAA to do this and fend off any legal challenges would be what?
There is a wide gap in the current rules that allows for abuse and even corruption. Some are pointing to the Tucker Devries situation as just such an example, but there are other variations. A redshirt player gets all the academic scholarship and athletic advantages, plus receives NIL money, for an entire year, while occupying a valuable roster spot and diminishing the team's options. Additionally, recruiting occurs to fill future needs assuming the redshirt player will be on the court next season.
There already exist a number of rules, regulations, and limitations for players, and some relate specifically to redshirts: ie, a player cannot voluntarily redshirt after playing in regular season games and is even restricted in the percentage of games that can be played yet still apply for a medical redshirt. Consequently, requiring a return year or compensation by the team to which a player transfers would be legal as an NCAA rule, which could be rolled into ongoing proposed adjustments to current NIL and transfer regulations being considered, perhaps as an amendment, likely avoiding a separate lawsuit.
Look. Everyone here has their own opinions, questions, and or reservations about College Basketball.
At the meeting we were asked, if we wanted to, to give contact information to be included onto a list to possibly set up those zoom meetings that were discussed. I would suggest to those who could not attend to get in contact with the Athletic office to see if you could be included onto the list. Powell made it very clear the wants any and all voices to be heard. The zoom meeting or mothy update idea came as a result of the turnout for the event.
The motivation for the NCAA to do this and fend off any legal challenges would be what?
There is a wide gap in the current rules that allows for abuse and even corruption. Some are pointing to the Tucker Devries situation as just such an example, but there are other variations. A redshirt player gets all the academic scholarship and athletic advantages, plus receives NIL money, for an entire year, while occupying a valuable roster spot and diminishing the team's options. Additionally, recruiting occurs to fill future needs assuming the redshirt player will be on the court next season.
There already exist a number of rules, regulations, and limitations for players, and some relate specifically to redshirts: ie, a player cannot voluntarily redshirt after playing in regular season games and is even restricted in the percentage of games that can be played yet still apply for a medical redshirt. Consequently, requiring a return year or compensation by the team to which a player transfers would be legal as an NCAA rule, which could be rolled into ongoing proposed adjustments to current NIL and transfer regulations being considered, perhaps as an amendment, likely avoiding a separate lawsuit.
Unless a rash of these situations occur to major college programs who are uncomfortable with dealing with it....I doubt it's a big deal to them....there's basically no chance of this happening. The NCAA isn't concerned about fairness to the little guy at all. I think all of the squawking about NIL rules, at least as it pertains to programs getting money back, etc are just a complete waste of time in even suggesting it. It's possible that there could be some attempt to restrict movement but that could have some legal issues in instituting.
In short....Valpo and the other little guys are going to have to figure out how to operate within the rules that exist.
The Stanford thing is really bad as he flat out took advantage of Valpo. Roger should have had an understanding with him or cut him lose last year. Then see who is going to pick him and his medical bills up without any idea if he would/could return to form—he shot 29 percent from the three.
As for the “end of the world” guys “Valpo has never been worse” stuff, that is just silly.We now have an AD who knows how to hire. Roger is a great hire, watch her hire an experienced “head” coach for women’s basketball just like she did for football and softball, Valpo athletics are on the rise.
God ur out of touch...Padilla hired Powell,,,she had nothing to do with it
the valpo athletics is on the rise comment shows how clueless or just naive you are
