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 jd24
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At this very moment NCSU is up over North Carolina which is a problem for anyone hoping ISU gets in. NCSU is not in the tournament without the win. Same with Oregon currently playing.

South Florida lost so ISU fans have to hope FAU beats UAB in the final. If its reversed, that's another spot that goes away.

 
Posted : 03/16/2024 8:21 PM
 Rez
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@jd24 FAU lost to temple earlier today.

 
Posted : 03/16/2024 8:24 PM
 jd24
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Posted by: @rezynezy

@jd24 FAU lost to temple earlier today.

 

Yeah. I just saw that result. Now the question is does the committee put FAU in the tournament along with whoever wins between Temple and UAB? Seems they might. That wouldn't be good for ISU.

NCSU won so there an add to the tournament essentially stealing a bid.

The Oregon/Colorado game seems like its a winners in and losers out game. So that may not affect bubble teams.

 

 
Posted : 03/16/2024 8:55 PM
 jd24
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Based on Lunardi's latest comments, it appears Oregon and Colorado will make it (Oregon won the conference) and he didn't even mention ISU which leads me to believe they will not make it.

Let's hope the mocks are not correct.

 
Posted : 03/16/2024 9:28 PM
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Bracketmatrix has Indiana State as first 4-5 out. With Oregon in now, it reduces ISU opportunities. Wish them in, but don’t expect them to make it. Mountain West getting several in could be the story. 

 
Posted : 03/16/2024 11:23 PM
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And the prodigal son makes it back to March madness with GCU. Congrats to Bryce Drew. Interesting ending 

 
Posted : 03/17/2024 12:07 AM
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That was very wacky.  It was 78-74 with 34 seconds left and ended up 89-74...Coach Drew has been on the other side of that situation, when Ray 'dipsh!t' McCallum Jr. dunked in the waning seconds of the game, versus running the clock out.  I don't see why throwing the ball at someone is a technical on UTA, however.  Though he definitely did it in retaliation, is there any rule against such a thing?  

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Posted : 03/17/2024 12:28 AM
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@valpotx well there really isn't a definition for a tech. Only for how to apply F1 and F2 fouls. In the books, a tech is defined as basically a play that is "unlike basketball" and it is up to president as to how to apply a technical. Throwing rhe ball is a play unlike basketball just like throwing equipment, ie a shoe at a player or the ball, is a tech.

 
Posted : 03/17/2024 7:46 AM
 jd24
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Posted by: @covufan

Bracketmatrix has Indiana State as first 4-5 out. With Oregon in now, it reduces ISU opportunities. Wish them in, but don’t expect them to make it. Mountain West getting several in could be the story. 

I watch the Mountain West all the time and that is a very good conference. 5-6 teams out of that conference would be fair.

 

 
Posted : 03/17/2024 7:59 AM
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Posted by: @rezynezy

And the prodigal son makes it back to March madness with GCU. Congrats to Bryce Drew. Interesting ending 

When I saw that last dunk, I said out loud "Ray McCallum!" Seeing Paul's twitter this morning, I know I wasn't the only one. Other old-timers will clearly remember.

 

 
Posted : 03/17/2024 8:02 AM
 jd24
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Posted by: @valpotx

That was very wacky.  It was 78-74 with 34 seconds left and ended up 89-74...Coach Drew has been on the other side of that situation, when Ray 'dipsh!t' McCallum Jr. dunked in the waning seconds of the game, versus running the clock out.  I don't see why throwing the ball at someone is a technical on UTA, however.  Though he definitely did it in retaliation, is there any rule against such a thing?  

You don't understand why throwing a basketball at an opposing player is a technical?

 

 

 
Posted : 03/17/2024 8:04 AM
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Correct, as it happens all of the time.  When someone's momentum is going out of bounds, or they are about to hit 5 seconds while inbounding and want to retain the ball, you often see them peg each other.  These are often not little love taps, but rather bullets, so that the opponent does not catch the ball.  The only difference here was the intent, but the guy threw it from around 15-20 feet away on the inbounds pass, so it also wasn't like they were right next to each other.  The act itself has proven over decades, that it is not a technical foul, so it just has to be the intent in this situation.

 

 
Posted : 03/17/2024 12:20 PM
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Posted by: @valpotx

Correct, as it happens all of the time.  When someone's momentum is going out of bounds, or they are about to hit 5 seconds while inbounding and want to retain the ball, you often see them peg each other.  These are often not little love taps, but rather bullets, so that the opponent does not catch the ball.  The only difference here was the intent, but the guy threw it from around 15-20 feet away on the inbounds pass, so it also wasn't like they were right next to each other.  The act itself has proven over decades, that it is not a technical foul, so it just has to be the intent in this situation.

 

 

Throwing the ball off of somebody to prevent the ball from going out of bounds is a basketball play, with direct consequences on the game through possession of the ball. Throwing a bullet off somebody in a dead ball situation because they dunked during a live play does not serve any basketball purpose, and the intent is only retaliation, not to provide any on court advantage. 

 

 
Posted : 03/17/2024 12:38 PM
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I get what you are saying and the overall view.  Technically, that was not a dead ball, as I don't believe that they whistled anything until he threw it off the guy.  That was technically his inbounds "pass" after the dunk, which then caused a whistle 

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Posted : 03/17/2024 5:54 PM
 jd24
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Posted by: @valpotx

Correct, as it happens all of the time.  When someone's momentum is going out of bounds, or they are about to hit 5 seconds while inbounding and want to retain the ball, you often see them peg each other.  These are often not little love taps, but rather bullets, so that the opponent does not catch the ball.  The only difference here was the intent, but the guy threw it from around 15-20 feet away on the inbounds pass, so it also wasn't like they were right next to each other.  The act itself has proven over decades, that it is not a technical foul, so it just has to be the intent in this situation.

 

I don't understand what the problem is in understanding what happened. It wasn't a basketball play. He threw it at another player in frustration.

What you're trying to equate this to has nothing in common at all with the actions of the player.

 

 

 
Posted : 03/17/2024 5:59 PM
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