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HL goes 6-0

Started by wh, November 09, 2012, 11:23:29 PM

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wh

The Horizon goes 6-0 tonight, with some nice wins. In addition to the our 31 point victory over GSU:

Cleveland St. wins by 43 over Grambling.

Detroit beat N. Michigan by 35.

Loyola beats Toledo by 12. LU was a 4 point favorite.

Wright St., a 10 point underdog at Idaho, wins by 10.

Milwaukee beats University of Mary, a D-II school by 30.

Special tribute to Milwaukee

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vu72

make that 8-0 as YSU took down George Washington and GB beat Chicago State.  Very nice start for the HL.
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wh

You might want to check that YSU score, 72.  A HL team couldn't possibly beat an A-10 team on the road. 

valpotx

Nice start to the season.  Hopefully all schools keep it up!
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vuweathernerd

Quote from: motowntitan on November 11, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
Great Start:

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
:thumbsup:



better take a pic and frame that, b/c it doesn't happen very often, even at the start of the season.

wh

Sunday games:

South Carolina 82, Milwaukee 75 (OT)

UIC 59, UC Riverside 52

This makes the HL 9-1 (7-1 vs. D-1) after the first week.  I'm guessing this is better than any start in the 6 years we've been a part of the league.

We are 4th in conf. RPI:

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/conferencerpi



valpo04

Youngstown State up 25-14 at the half at Georgia.  Airing on ESPNU.

vu72

CSU beat Bowling Green in OT. YSU up 14 now, with 8 plus to go!
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vu72

YSU wins by 12 at Georgia, in front of MAYBE 500.  Hope Nebraska gets a similar turnout Thursday!  BTW, YSU is a load.  Very thin but athletic and can really shoot it.
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agibson

The A10 and the SEC!  Quite a start for YSU!  Even if Georgia had a losing record last year, etc.

Don't you love box score attendance?  4,275 in Athens.


valpotx

Even though Georgia is not good at basketball, always good to beat an SEC team.
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milanmiracle

The bad...

Michigan 42 Cleveland State 14 - Half

Detroit squeaked out a loss vs. St. John's. Ugh, so close!

Those are the games the HL needs to win in order to garner some national respect now that Butler left. The mid major wins are nice, but BCS wins are critical in the grand scheme of things.
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a3uge

Quote from: milanmiracle on November 13, 2012, 08:26:14 PM
The bad...

Michigan 42 Cleveland State 14 - Half

Detroit squeaked out a loss vs. St. John's. Ugh, so close!

Those are the games the HL needs to win in order to garner some national respect now that Butler left. The mid major wins are nice, but BCS wins are critical in the grand scheme of things.

Detroit and Milwaukee (or a Valpo loss to Nebraska) is bad for the league. It could be the difference between a Horizon League team playing a 2-seed Kentucky or playing a more reasonable 5-seed mid Big Ten team.

valporun

I don't quite get St. John's beating Detroit. I mean St. John's played really well two years ago, prior to Lavin's cancer diagnosis, then under the assistant coach they would struggle running the same system. How are most of these same players able to adjust under Steve Lavin to beat Detroit?

We obviously know Detroit's strengths are McCallum's game and when he gets the ball to a Doug Anderson or Nick Minnerath for a dunk. Does Ray Sr. not know how to keep his kid in check to get the proper adjustments from guys like Anderson and Minnerath, or does he just give up and let his kid run the show, leading to losses that should have been a win yesterday over St. John's?

KL31NY

Does anyone keep track of shooting percentage on 2nd chance opportunities? Detroit appeared to miss a lot of gimmies & put backs (even a couple dunks) when St. John's made its second half come back
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FWalum

Quote from: valporun on November 14, 2012, 12:28:00 PMWe obviously know Detroit's strengths are McCallum's game and when he gets the ball to a Doug Anderson or Nick Minnerath for a dunk. Does Ray Sr. not know how to keep his kid in check to get the proper adjustments from guys like Anderson and Minnerath, or does he just give up and let his kid run the show, leading to losses that should have been a win yesterday over St. John's?
As I said on the Recognition for Rowdy thread... Detroit looked like... uhm... Detroit, athletic, erratic and unable to run half court sets when they needed to be disciplined. In free wheeling fast full court games they excel but when it comes down to the last five minutes of a fairly tight game they often come up empty like today.

And the 7 a.m. Nov. 13 vs NIU thread... I understand the need to run clock when you have the lead in the closing minutes of the game, but repeatedly compressing a one dimensional offense ( Ray Jr ) into a 7 or 8 second window and watching it fail possession after possession is crazy.

Either he is letting the kid run the show or the kid just flat out doesn't listen to coaching, one or the other.  I think that sums it up.
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vu72

The conference is now 17-6 with no "bad" losses, our loss to Nebraska notwithstanding. Loyola lost to Western Michigan, not sure how that was suppose to come out.  Saw that UIC lost to New Mexico by 7.
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vu72

A couple of nice wins tonight as Milwaukee beats Davidson and Detroit beats Drake.  Loyola loses to So. Florida. On balance, the conference should continue to gain in status.  Milwaukee looked pretty good in a very tough environment as the Kolache (sp?) was packed and lots of students in their band box.
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StlVUFan

Quote from: vu72 on November 17, 2012, 09:27:06 PM
A couple of nice wins tonight as Milwaukee beats Davidson and Detroit beats Drake.  Loyola loses to So. Florida. On balance, the conference should continue to gain in status.  Milwaukee looked pretty good in a very tough environment as the Kolache (sp?) was packed and lots of students in their band box.
Klotsche

wh

Quote from: vu72 on November 17, 2012, 09:27:06 PM
A couple of nice wins tonight as Milwaukee beats Davidson and Detroit beats Drake.  Loyola loses to So. Florida. On balance, the conference should continue to gain in status.  Milwaukee looked pretty good in a very tough environment as the Kolache (sp?) was packed and lots of students in their band box.

Davidson was the overwhelming pre-season favorite to win the SoCon's South Division.  They return all 5 starters from last year's NCAA Tournament team.

LaPorteAveApostle

Quote from: vu72 on November 17, 2012, 09:27:06 PMMilwaukee looked pretty good in a very tough environment as the Kolache (sp?) was packed and lots of students in their band box.

Would you say Milwaukee is going to suffer this year from all the fans pouring into a tight space and getting stuck?

I've heard they call that malady Flood Klotsche.

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bbtds

Quote from: vu72 on November 17, 2012, 09:27:06 PMMilwaukee looked pretty good in a very tough environment as the Kolache (sp?) was packed and lots of students in their band box.

But more importantly was the Klotsche band packed into their Klotsche band box? 

What's a band box without a band? 

Only a box!

bbtds

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Quote from: vu72 on November 17, 2012, 09:27:06 PMMilwaukee looked pretty good in a very tough environment as the Kolache (sp?) was packed

I think I finally figured out the code. Since the Kolache was packed it was very sweet. There must have been an unusual crowd of Czech and Slovak mothers at the game (also some extra, shall we say, large people). Even a basketball alumnus by the name of Ayres was in attendance. This all lead to the band box not having room for the band.


Kolache /kɵˈlɑːtʃi/ (also spelled kolace, kolach, or kolacky, from the Czech and Slovak plural koláče, sg. koláč) is a type of pastry that holds a dollop of fruit rimmed by a puffy pillow of supple dough.[1] Originating as a semisweet wedding dessert from Central Europe, they have become popular in parts of the United States. The word kolache (колаче) itself means 'a small cookie' in Macedonian.


I think the real problem here is that J.Martin Klotsche should have simply changed his name.

J. Martin Klotsche (November 28, 1907-4 February 1995), was an American professor of history and the first chancellor of the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee. A native of Scribner, Nebraska, Johannes Martin Klotsche ("Joe") was a high school graduate at age 13 and a college graduate at 17;



Definition of BANDBOX

1
: a usually cylindrical box of cardboard or thin wood for holding light articles of attire




So in conclusion when one talks about the Klotsche bandbox they are really talking about where "Joe" kept his light articles of attire.

Oh, my!

vu72

bbtds, you've got too much time on your hand!  ;)
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