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Update: Ryan Broekhoff has agreed to a two-year deal with the Dallas Mavericks!!

Started by VU2014, June 12, 2018, 10:43:33 AM

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VU2014

I think there is no doubt Ryan is NBA caliber but it will come down to finding the right situation and fit. Fingers crossed it all works out for Ryan.

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vu72

Let's hope so!  A truly nice guy and a proven star in Europe.  It would be fun to see Alec and Rowdy guarding each other!
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valpotx

"Don't mess with Texas"

VUGrad1314

Rooting hard for him. Hope he makes it. Seems my speculation that he might end up in Summer League in the where are they now thread may not have been too far off.

bigmosmithfan1

Rowdy's skill set is definitely in demand in the current NBA, as well.

usc4valpo

He can set the transition to the Greek Freak.

VUGrad1314

Best part about that list of teams is that it's either a team where he can play a lot and help establish a winning culture (Brooklyn) or hungry young playoff teams  where his intangibles and skillset will be great fits. I'm sure we're all rooting for Milwaukee to sign him if any preference exists but just seeing him in the NBA would be really cool and well-deserved.

IrishDawg

Nice kid, and a solid player on a top tier Euroleague team.  I don't think he has a great chance of getting on an NBA team.  He'll be 28 in August and although you can never say never, that's not usually the age in which guys make the move.

He'll really have to show out in the Summer League (which is usually a really hard place to showcase yourself if you aren't a guard that creates his own looks since 95% of the guys out there aren't looking to pass the ball) in order to make the jump in my opinion.  This doesn't mean I don't think he could play in the NBA, I just don't know how legitimate of a chance he'll get.

Worst-case scenario though, he doesn't make it and continues to be paid well on his Euroleague team and gets more run with the Aussie National team, which is still better than most college basketball players wind up.

vu84v2

Quote from: IrishDawg on June 13, 2018, 01:37:47 PM
Nice kid, and a solid player on a top tier Euroleague team.  I don't think he has a great chance of getting on an NBA team.  He'll be 28 in August and although you can never say never, that's not usually the age in which guys make the move.

He'll really have to show out in the Summer League (which is usually a really hard place to showcase yourself if you aren't a guard that creates his own looks since 95% of the guys out there aren't looking to pass the ball) in order to make the jump in my opinion.  This doesn't mean I don't think he could play in the NBA, I just don't know how legitimate of a chance he'll get.

Worst-case scenario though, he doesn't make it and continues to be paid well on his Euroleague team and gets more run with the Aussie National team, which is still better than most college basketball players wind up.

While I understand your points, I think that the thing that seems to be different now is Ryan's three point shooting. He was over 50% for the Eurocup season. If he comes in and shows that level of shooting in workouts and summer league games, he certainly has a chance. I don't think anyone would question his effort or character and his other skills are solid for a two or a three on an NBA roster.

vu72

Quote from: IrishDawg on June 13, 2018, 01:37:47 PM
Nice kid, and a solid player on a top tier Euroleague team.  I don't think he has a great chance of getting on an NBA team.  He'll be 28 in August and although you can never say never, that's not usually the age in which guys make the move.

He'll really have to show out in the Summer League (which is usually a really hard place to showcase yourself if you aren't a guard that creates his own looks since 95% of the guys out there aren't looking to pass the ball) in order to make the jump in my opinion.  This doesn't mean I don't think he could play in the NBA, I just don't know how legitimate of a chance he'll get.

Worst-case scenario though, he doesn't make it and continues to be paid well on his Euroleague team and gets more run with the Aussie National team, which is still better than most college basketball players wind up.

I'm not sure people are disqualified based on age.  I think if they want a shooter he'll make a squad.  Look, Kyle Korver isn't 27, he is 37 and making $5.239 million.  He is the same height and shot 43% from the 3.  Ryan has shot 44.3% on averaged over his Euro career.  I think the Cavs were wishing Ryan was on their team instead of Kyle!
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IrishDawg

Quote from: vu72 on June 13, 2018, 01:57:45 PM
I'm not sure people are disqualified based on age.  I think if they want a shooter he'll make a squad.  Look, Kyle Korver isn't 27, he is 37 and making $5.239 million.  He is the same height and shot 43% from the 3.  Ryan has shot 44.3% on averaged over his Euro career.  I think the Cavs were wishing Ryan was on their team instead of Kyle!

People aren't disqualified on age, which is why I said "you can never say never".  Normally, guys don't make the jump after 6 years of pro basketball after college outside the US, but it does happen on occasion.  Andre Ingram was a 32 year old that got called up from the G League this past year by the Lakers, which was the first time he'd ever been in the NBA.  Mike James was a 27 year old rookie point guard for the Suns last year. 

Broekhoff shot from a 3 point line that's over a foot and a half (20 inches officially) shorter than the NBA's.  It's not a lot, but it does make a difference.  I'm not saying he couldn't prove to be a good 3 point shooter in the NBA, but to say that Cleveland would rather have Broekhoff than Korver, who is regarded as one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA history https://www.nba.com/magic/ranking-3-point-shooters-history-1-20180219 seems like a reach to me.

I'm not trying to disparage his skills, though it may seem like it.  I do think he could make it if he shoots it well and shows he can defend his position in workouts and summer league.  I'm just saying that lots of guys (both college and pros), who have enough skill to make it in some capacity at the NBA level get workouts and interviews with NBA squads, and aren't necessarily given a legitimate chance to prove themselves.  Hopefully he is.

IndyValpo

First off as a Pacer fan, I hate Kyle Korver.

Ryan's key is picking (if possible) the right camp to go to, much easier said than done. Then shoot so well they can't get rid of him. One of many problems is that NBA teams many times go to camp with 14-15 guys on guaranteed contracts making openings tight.

valpotx

Plenty of people debut in the NBA past 27.  There are a lot of folks that earn their way by playing overseas, as Rowdy has done.  The Mavs big Center from Tunisia debuted at 29 or 30, and Joe Ingles, another Australian, debuted at 27.  Don't count him out.
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FieldGoodie05

I'm at the Washington airport (DCA) and can confirm Ryan just tried out with the Wizards.  Very nice guy, told him we all are rooting for him.

Said Wizards workout went quite well and has two more lined up.  Believe he said one was the Nets, was in a rush to catch a flight so don't quote me.

I'm 6' and I felt tiny...

vu72

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 13, 2018, 05:18:42 PM
I'm at the Washington airport (DCA) and can confirm Ryan just tried out with the Wizards.  Very nice guy, told him we all are rooting for him.

Said Wizards workout went quite well and has two more lined up.  Believe he said one was the Nets, was in a rush to catch a flight so don't quote me.

I'm 6' and I felt tiny...

you'll never meet a finer young gentleman.
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VULB#62

If Rowdie makes an NBA squad, do you think we'll be seeing Koala back on our forum?

Ourne1989


bbtds

Quote from: VULB#62 on June 14, 2018, 08:37:26 AM
If Rowdie makes an NBA squad, do you think we'll be seeing Koala back on our forum?


Look! There's one already!





vu84v2

Quote from: vu72 on June 13, 2018, 07:21:37 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 13, 2018, 05:18:42 PM
I'm at the Washington airport (DCA) and can confirm Ryan just tried out with the Wizards.  Very nice guy, told him we all are rooting for him.

Said Wizards workout went quite well and has two more lined up.  Believe he said one was the Nets, was in a rush to catch a flight so don't quote me.

I'm 6' and I felt tiny...
you'll never meet a finer young gentleman.


I fully agree and would add that you'll also never meet a nicer and finer family.

koala


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wh

Nice to "see" you again, Koala! Hope things are going well. Memories of Ryan never fade. BTW I would love to see Ryan join the Valpo coaching staff when his playing days are over.
wh

a3uge

Greek Freak and Broekhoff together, I would die.

koala

I haven't been far away, I still keep an eye on the team and read the board every now and then.   

You know what if Ryan makes an NBA team it means we can visit the USA more and a visit to Valpo will be on the cards to catch up with all of our Valpo friends, can't wait.

WH, Ryan would make a fantastic coach, I like your thinking  :thumbsup:

vu72

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